Savage, Stevens, Springfield, Clone Gill Gun Data Base
In an attempt to sort out and consolidate the various features found on these rifles & discussed in several threads (around a dozen threads with over 500 posts), it would be helpful if those willing to participate would post the following information about their rifles:
Manufacturer: Savage, Stevens, Springfield & Model No., or store brand (name & store model No.)
Factory: Utica, Chicopee Falls or Westfield if present.
Barrel:Patent numbers on the barrrel, not the number of patents.
"Cal. 22 Long Rifle Smokeless Greased Only" or ".22 Short Long Or Long Rifle Long Rifle Only As Automatic"
Barrel length
Bumper(top of receiver): Solid, spring loaded or "V' shaped
Receiver & Sights: Standard post & rear sights, fold down rear, ramp or globe front.
Unholey reciever, d&t'd for peep only, d&t'd for side mount scope (2 or 4 holes), d&t'd for both peep & scope, grooved for tipoff.
Flat or streamlined receiver plug. Metal or plastic.
Gills (openings) or not & number of on left side.
Charging Handle: Large grooved, large flat, small ribbed, or other.
Trigger Mechanism: Long or short.
Lifter: Wire or solid. "R" spring or coil spring.
Stock: Walnut or hardwood (Birch or Beech), "Buckhorn" (black tip), checkered grip or plain, Tenite.
Trigger Guard: Cast, formed steel, plastic. Inletted or recessed into stock or not.
Magazine: Tube or magazine.
If tube: Oval loading port or cartridge shaped.
Here are date codes from 1949 thru 1968.
A=49, B=50, C=51, D=52, E=53, F=54, G=55, H=56, I=57, J=58, K=59, L=60
M=61, N=62, P=63, R=64, S=65, T=66, U=67, V=68, (W=69, X=70)
The alpha code should be preceeded one or two numbers enclosed in a circle on top of the barrel, between the rear sight & the receiver, as in this pic of a 6D...
By the date code G, this should be a 1955 rifle.
Disregard the large O since O & Q were not used in the codes.
Thanks to all the members who have contributed the above pictures...this was a team effort!
List multiple rifles separately.
Mine is:
Manufacturer: Springfield Model 87A
Factory: Chicopee Falls
Barrelatents: 2094577, 2224758,2223093,RE22585,2271576.
".22 Short Long Or Long Rifle, Long Rifle Only As Automatic"
24" barrel
Bumper: spring type
Receiver & Sights: Standard post & rear sights.
Solid receiver. Not d&t'd for peep or scope, not grooved.
Flat plug, steel.
8 gills on left, one on right.
Charging Handle:Large grooved
Trigger Mechanism: Long
Lifter: Solid. Coil spring.
Stock: Walnut. Checkered grip.
Trigger Guard: Cast. Inletted.
Mag: Tube fed, cartridge shaped port
Feel free to list any variations not mentioned or post pics of anything you may be unsure of.
Thanks, Hud
ShootsAtSky has done us all a great favor by putting the database spreadsheet in a format that can be accessed from this thread through this link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz10uPZOODB5OUZrejNvY09Uem8/edit?usp=sharing
8/1/12 Spreadsheet updated to include new entries & hyperlinks to patents & members orignial posts.
The spreadsheet isn't locked, so people can make changes to their copy if they save it to their pc, but they can't post it back up to the link.
Anyone with new information needs to post at the end of this thread & the DB will be updated from there to the link .
Thanks again Bob :bthumb:
This post contains somewhat of a chronology & links to all the patents found on these guns:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2987738&postcount=74
The member's guns here are listed in their current configuration as posted and may not reflect original factory configuration.
In an attempt to sort out and consolidate the various features found on these rifles & discussed in several threads (around a dozen threads with over 500 posts), it would be helpful if those willing to participate would post the following information about their rifles:
Manufacturer: Savage, Stevens, Springfield & Model No., or store brand (name & store model No.)
Factory: Utica, Chicopee Falls or Westfield if present.
Barrel:Patent numbers on the barrrel, not the number of patents.
"Cal. 22 Long Rifle Smokeless Greased Only" or ".22 Short Long Or Long Rifle Long Rifle Only As Automatic"
Barrel length
Bumper(top of receiver): Solid, spring loaded or "V' shaped
Receiver & Sights: Standard post & rear sights, fold down rear, ramp or globe front.
Unholey reciever, d&t'd for peep only, d&t'd for side mount scope (2 or 4 holes), d&t'd for both peep & scope, grooved for tipoff.
Flat or streamlined receiver plug. Metal or plastic.
Gills (openings) or not & number of on left side.
Charging Handle: Large grooved, large flat, small ribbed, or other.
Trigger Mechanism: Long or short.
Lifter: Wire or solid. "R" spring or coil spring.
Stock: Walnut or hardwood (Birch or Beech), "Buckhorn" (black tip), checkered grip or plain, Tenite.
Trigger Guard: Cast, formed steel, plastic. Inletted or recessed into stock or not.
Magazine: Tube or magazine.
If tube: Oval loading port or cartridge shaped.
Here are date codes from 1949 thru 1968.
A=49, B=50, C=51, D=52, E=53, F=54, G=55, H=56, I=57, J=58, K=59, L=60
M=61, N=62, P=63, R=64, S=65, T=66, U=67, V=68, (W=69, X=70)
The alpha code should be preceeded one or two numbers enclosed in a circle on top of the barrel, between the rear sight & the receiver, as in this pic of a 6D...
By the date code G, this should be a 1955 rifle.
Disregard the large O since O & Q were not used in the codes.
Thanks to all the members who have contributed the above pictures...this was a team effort!
List multiple rifles separately.
Mine is:
Manufacturer: Springfield Model 87A
Factory: Chicopee Falls
Barrelatents: 2094577, 2224758,2223093,RE22585,2271576.
".22 Short Long Or Long Rifle, Long Rifle Only As Automatic"
24" barrel
Bumper: spring type
Receiver & Sights: Standard post & rear sights.
Solid receiver. Not d&t'd for peep or scope, not grooved.
Flat plug, steel.
8 gills on left, one on right.
Charging Handle:Large grooved
Trigger Mechanism: Long
Lifter: Solid. Coil spring.
Stock: Walnut. Checkered grip.
Trigger Guard: Cast. Inletted.
Mag: Tube fed, cartridge shaped port
Feel free to list any variations not mentioned or post pics of anything you may be unsure of.
Thanks, Hud
ShootsAtSky has done us all a great favor by putting the database spreadsheet in a format that can be accessed from this thread through this link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz10uPZOODB5OUZrejNvY09Uem8/edit?usp=sharing
8/1/12 Spreadsheet updated to include new entries & hyperlinks to patents & members orignial posts.
The spreadsheet isn't locked, so people can make changes to their copy if they save it to their pc, but they can't post it back up to the link.
Anyone with new information needs to post at the end of this thread & the DB will be updated from there to the link .
Thanks again Bob :bthumb:
This post contains somewhat of a chronology & links to all the patents found on these guns:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2987738&postcount=74
The member's guns here are listed in their current configuration as posted and may not reflect original factory configuration.