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Old 09-17-2019, 05:37 PM
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Thunderbolt leaded up 2 SW-22 barrels so bad I literally could not drop a cleaning rod through to scrub the bores. Took me hours of scrubbing to get them shootable again. It was a shame, because up until they were squirting streams of lead out, I was getting 2" groups at 25 with it (freestyle unsupported pistol).

Never again.

Went to pure CCI MiniMag after that, leading problem did not reoccur.
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:40 PM
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Based on all the great info....I'll steer clear of them.

Now, about Wichester Xpert 36 gr and Blazer 40 gr. ??
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:05 AM
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Thunderbolts get a bad rap for some reason. They aren't target ammo.


I wish Walmart still had the $14.97 bulk packs on sale. I would buy a case at that price.

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Old 09-18-2019, 05:06 PM
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Down here .22LR bulk ammo supply is irregular, so basically we shoot cheapest we can find.

15 years ago Thunderbolts were trash; lots of FTF, dirty fouling, poor reliability and performance and even a few cases of barrel bulging due to stuck bullets (A friend's Nylon was damaged because of this).

Nowadays they returned; gave them a try and so far no issues. In some guns their Winchester counterparts won't even chamber properly, but these will work 100% with pretty good accuracy considering price and intended use (Plinking and target practice). Pretty much the same performance expected from similar rounds from other manufacturers like CCI Blazers, Federal American Eagles, etc.

If Blazers are available for the same price would rather pick those;good accuracy for bulk-priced ammo and same bullet type (40gr. HVLRN) but as far as I know without so many detractors. Sadly, haven't been imported for a while.

Xpert22s have been my favorite small game hunting ammo for many years. Tried HVHP SK in my hunting guns (Zastava FS and CZ-455FS) and couldn't outperform the less expensive Winchesters. Also have detractors due to assorted reliability and performance issues but for me they work 100%. Haven't seen them for sale for some years over here but fortunately I hoarded a few boxes that should last for a while.

My advice is to buy a box each and give them a try to see how they work in your guns before sticking to a type/brand, but keeping a reasonable performance expectative according to their price and intended use....you might end up pleasently surprised with some.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:21 PM
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Thunderbolts get a bad rap for some reason. They aren't target ammo.


I wish Walmart still had the $14.97 bulk packs on sale. I would buy a case at that price.
Today is your lucky day. Midway has them for $14.99 for 500.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:50 PM
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I have had much better results with Remington than I have with Winchester.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:51 PM
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Semi auto, bolt and pistols all handle it well.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:54 PM
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I may have missed it but what .22 are you going to use it in? My M&P 15-22 has put over 3500 rounds of it down range without a single failure. I clean it every 500 rounds or so. My Ruger 10-22 likes it fine and so does my Browning BL22 lever action. My .22 revolvers are fine with it too. It has not worked well for me in any of my semi auto .22 pistols. For the price I will plink with it in the guns it works in. I have found that it runs just fine when matched to the right gun.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:57 PM
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Is it reliable? accurate? worth trying? I've never used it.
Frankly, I have never found any brand of bulk ammo to be as good as the ammo the manufacturers sell in 100 or 50 packs.

Unlike some here, I really like Remington Golden ammo for all general use like hunting and some paper punching in most of my guns. If I really am looking for highly accurate ammo, then I am going to spend the money on specialty rounds. The brand is going to vary from gun to gun because some guns really like some ammo better than others.

Somewhere on this forum is one of the absolute best reviews on .22LR ammo I have ever seen anywhere. You should find and download it. It was written by Iowegan.
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Old 09-19-2019, 06:30 PM
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Thunderbolts leaded up a barrel on one of my 22 conversion units for a handgun so bad it took hours to get all the lead out. It came out in strips and chunks. I likely damaged the barrel trying to get the barrel clean, it never shot very well after.

I’ve shot most of the 22 rimfire ammo on the market in a dozen guns and I’ve never seen anything like Thunderbolts.

A suboptimal ammo based on my experience.
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Old 09-19-2019, 06:59 PM
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Leading

Same here, out of my 3 22 pistols, it leaded up 2 so bad I broke a cleaning rob, had to build a jig to get it out. It hoots in my 3rd gun, so using it up there. Keep an eye out for keyholing. not nice round holes but key shaped hole. Once that starts you are leaded up and need to stop immediately and clean. One mine is used up, I will not buy again.
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:00 PM
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Leading

I actually collect 22 Grains, I have a reloading scale, of lead, largest part looked like a full22 fired case, after cleaning.
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:26 PM
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I may have missed it but what .22 are you going to use it in? My M&P 15-22 has put over 3500 rounds of it down range without a single failure. I clean it every 500 rounds or so. My Ruger 10-22 likes it fine and so does my Browning BL22 lever action. My .22 revolvers are fine with it too. It has not worked well for me in any of my semi auto .22 pistols. For the price I will plink with it in the guns it works in. I have found that it runs just fine when matched to the right gun.
Anything from a 1930's Savage 3, a 1930's Win 67 to a CZ 455 including and not limited to various other brands..Marlin 39A, Ruger Super Single six, Buckmark and even a Rossi and Walther.
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Jam jam click click most common sound heard from bulk Ammo
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:01 PM
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Thunderbolt

Hi All,
Thunderbolt leaded up:
H & R 923,
H.S. Sentinel,
Marlin 99,
Springfield 187,
Ruger Old Model Single Six Convertible,
2 Ruger New Model Single Six Convertibles,
All between 10 to 15 rounds (could see the groups open up.) From irritating to excessive leading in the forcing cone area (revolvers) or the start of the rifling (Rifles.) Took several days repeat cleaning w/ Lead remover. Lead came out as fleck to LARGE slivers.
Will not use them in my 10-22.
All from a single case I bought in April 1996. I do NOT plan on buying this crap again.
Experienced NO leading problem in my Remington Model 572. And good accuracy.
Carry on,
Leo
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