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Old 11-12-2021, 12:21 PM
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Title says it all.....I am a shotgunner, son wants to get into deer hunting. Any and all suggestions welcome.
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:22 PM
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Honestly, at this time, I've seen more 308 than anything in stock. That will be more than enough for deer

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mossberg maverick 88, 12ga, carlson IC choke, foster slugs


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Ruger American in one of its guises, $4-500 depending on model, .243/.308 or 6.5 Creedmoor...
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:32 PM
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Ruger American .270 Winchester.

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As mentioned above at this time 308 is the easiest ammo to find. Good old deer cartridge. Not sure what your budget is but the Ruger is good for the money. Many other options for more money. I have seen some 6.5 Creedmore ammo available. Any modern rifle caliber from .24-.308 will do the job within reasonable range.

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Old 11-12-2021, 01:46 PM
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Thinking back over my deer hunting days, I started with a used Remington 788 in 6mm, a couple boxes of 100 gr ammo, and used that for many years. Switched to pistol using a 10" 44 Mag barrel on my T/C, then switched to black powder with my 54 caliber T/C Renegade. All of which were very capable of taking white-tailed deer in our neck of the woods. I really enjoyed the winter Black Powder hunts.

Today I would probably take my Remington 763 Guide rifle in 308 as a backup for longer shots . . . for my S&W 44 Mag, PC, "Hunter Plus" revolver. Lots of factory offerings on the shelves these days and I would use a "quality" 150 gr Ballistic Tip round. Obviously 30-06, 270, 260, 6.5 Creedmoor, & 243 are also great standard caliber options as well.

Most rifles today are more than adequate for hunting accuracy - Tikka, Browning, Remington, Savage, & Ruger all have good bolt action options. I would not choose a MSR (AR) platform . . . but that's just my opinion. If into lever actions one would have to consider a Henry or Marlin in 30-30 as well. If you have a threaded barrel on the rifle you select it would be a way to soften the recoil with a muzzle brake as I'm not sure of your son's size and exposure to center fire rifles.

A guys first deer hunt is a special experience . . . and even better if it can be done with dad. Good hunting for the setup, preparations, and the "hunt" to follow.
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Fero there is no best rifle or cartridge for deer hunting. But I will tell you my experiences in 50 years of actual hunting and of killing deer on control. This will be a sample of several hundred deer.

Being a hand-loader,( I was always interested in what happened after the bullet did it's job, wound channel, penetration, etc.) and gun enthusiast I have owned and shot deer with the following centerfire cartridges, One or two may escape my memory.

.222,22-250-, 220 swift, .243, .250 Sav, .257 Rob. 25-06, .260 Rem. 6.5-06, .264 Mag, 6.5 Remington mag, .270 Win, 7x57, .280 rem, 7mm rem mag, 7mmstw, 30-30, 30-06, 300 H&H, 300 win. mag. .338 Win mag, 375. H&H and a .458 Win.

I shot only one or two with some calibers such as the .375 and .458 more for the heck of it than anything. They are big and mighty but won't flatten a whitetail any faster than a 30-30 will! My kills with some of the other cartridges won't make a very large sample either such as the 7mm rem, 7mm STW,

Keep in mind, it is the bullet that kills the deer, this is very important!

You will get the same results with a .22-250 that you will get with the swift. Same results with the bigger 6.5's as the .264 Mag. same results with a .270, as with a .280, 30-06, and the bigger cartridges. AS long as the right bullet is chosen !

The extra power of a .300 Win. mag will not be evident over the lesser power of say a .270 on something as small and somewhat fragile as a whitetail. Regardless if it is your Virginia sub species or the Borealis sub.

I probably wouldn't go with any of the .22 centerfires as a dedicated whitetail rifle , even though I believe with a premium bullet they will do fine. Also I have probably killed more deer with the .22 centerfires than anything else but these were mainly late summer , early fall kills and mostly does. I know someone is going to speak up about all they have killed with them that is fine but my recommendation is not one of them.

Nothing larger than the .270, .280 class is warranted and these two are very hard not to choose. You didn't say how old your son was or anything else but this is getting up there to about what most shooters can handle well as far as recoil goes!

The .243 is excellent as are the .25 calibers packing all of what you need for whitetails, stay away from varmint bullets in these calibers as well as others. The .243 and .250 Savage can make great lightweight low recoiling rifles. The .25-06 would probably be my pick and I used one for many years with the excellent 115 grain Nosler partition. Nothing more is required!

Availability does become an issue and I wouldn't recommend the three 6.5's that I mentioned for that reason. But I have never saw a better job done on whitetails that that which I have done with a 6.5 Rem. Mag or .264 mag with the 125 grain Nosler partition loaded to about 3200fps. The .270 and 130 Nosler seems to be in that league also.

I don't deer hunt too much anymore. I will kill one for the freezer here in a couple weeks and that will be it. I pack a bolt rifle chambered in the little .250 Savage using the 100 grain Nosler partition. You don't have to go big, use a good bullet and put it in the right place, that should be your goal.

In the end pick most any centerfire cartridge you like, use a good bullet and put it in the right place. One would almost have to deliberately try to pick a cartridge to find one that wasn't suitable. The .300 win mag will not kill them any deader or faster than a .25-06! Go the low recoil and good bullet route.

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Title says it all.....I am a shotgunner, son wants to get into deer hunting. Any and all suggestions welcome.
Get him a slug barreled shotgun. I live in the hills,of East Tennessee, no need to shoot past 100- 150 yds. I use my good ol mossberg 500. I can swap barrels and shoot deer, fowl or even 2 legged critters if needed. Also 12 gauge ammo is available.
You can use iron sights or scope or red dot. Etc etc. just my 2 cents. Will also need a Quality knife.
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ive seen slugs at walmart, Cabelas and federals website easily available. about 7$ box of five


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My fav is a older Ruger international in 308.
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Old 11-12-2021, 03:28 PM
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Not Sure where he might be hunting but I've been using a 30-06 ruger m77 bolt action for years. Never felt undergunned or out of range. With exception of the past year or so ammo has alway been easy to find. Could'nt argue with the 308 either. If shots are 100 yrds or less a 12ga rifled slug will do find. Might also Check regulations some areas are shotgun only. Most of my deer hunting was in the woods of the NY Catskills , Lower Hudson Valley (shotgun only) and in the past 15 years in NE TN..
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Old 11-12-2021, 03:33 PM
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.308 is all I own in the way of centerfires. When I deer hunt with a rifle, my Adirondack (Kimber) is all I use. Even killed a 6x5 bull elk with it 3 years ago.
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Old 11-12-2021, 03:34 PM
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My fav is a older Ruger international in 308.
Real nice gun, mine is a Ruger RLS in 30-06. Same barreled action as the RSI in an ultralight stock. Wife has an RLS in .243. Great guns for hilly woods.

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I went last night to pick up ammo. They were out of 30-30, 30-06, 270, and buckshot, but there was a lot of 308 on the shelf.

Sure has me thinking about a 308.
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