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Old 09-12-2021, 10:09 PM
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I finally got my .22LR Charter Arms Pathfinding back. For more information, see: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum...1#post12457847.

Today was my first time out to put substantial rounds down range. I was just trying to do some break in, so they were only at 10 yard. However, I noticed that about one out of four rounds looked like they were striking the target sideways. Odd, really odd. I was using Federal bulk pack 36GR HP.

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Old 09-12-2021, 11:41 PM
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my suggestion...try different (better quality) ammunition
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:15 AM
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Two things I would suggest. You may have one rachet on the cylinder that is worn and your cylinder is not timing every shot right. Second you may have lead in the barrel. Scrub it good. When a barrel leads it can cause what you describe. Revolvers are more prone to this than guns without barrel gap due to the deformation phases of the bullet base as it jumps from the cylinder. I believe the cylinder openings need to be a bit bigger than the forcing cone.
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Old 09-13-2021, 09:29 AM
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I should mention that the revolver was purchased NIB and spent most of the time I've owned it back at Charter having the trigger repaired. I have less than 200 rounds through it -- all of it Federal 36gr copper jacketed.

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Old 09-13-2021, 11:21 AM
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Send it back and tell them to send you a new gun.
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Old 09-19-2021, 04:34 PM
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Back from the range with some more results I tried a couple different loads and then set up some targets and dedicated one target to each cylinder position. Here are the results:

Gun: Charter Arms Pathfinder
Barrel: 4.2"
Cal: 22LR

Federal 36gr HP CP HV value pack:
1st Cylinder: 4 of 8 rounds keyholed (50%)
Total: 27 of 58 (46.5%)

Aguila 38gr HP CP HV:
1st Cylinder: 2 of 8 rounds keyholed (25%)
2nd Cylinder: 1 of 8 rounds keyholed (12.5%)

Cylinder Position #1 (Federal):
7 of 7 rounds keyholed (100%)

Cylinder Position #2 (Federal):
4 of 7 rounds keyholed (50%)

Cylinder Position #3 (Federal):
3 of 7 rounds keyholed (57%)

Cylinder Position #4 (Federal):
3 of 6 rounds keyholed (50%)

Cylinder Position #5 (Federal):
4 of 6 rounds keyholed (67%)

Cylinder Position #6 (Federal):
4 of 6 rounds keyholed (67%)

Cylinder Position #7 (Federal):
4 of 6 rounds keyholed (66%)

Cylinder Position #8 (Federal):
0 of 7 rounds keyholed (0%)

Conclusion:
Once I determined that the Federal was a worse load than Aguila, I did my remaining testing with Federal. Cylinder position #8 worked far better that the others. The heavier loads seemed to do better -- however, I didn't have any 40gr ammo to try. Maybe next time out.
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:59 PM
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Why are you still futzing with this gun and contemplating yet another range trip with it? It should be in the box on the way back to Charter Arms, with a note detailing today's range results and a demand for a new gun since there is something seriously wrong with the one you have.
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Old 09-22-2021, 01:19 PM
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Why are you still futzing with this gun and contemplating yet another range trip with it? It should be in the box on the way back to Charter Arms, with a note detailing today's range results and a demand for a new gun since there is something seriously wrong with the one you have.
THIS!

For any gun to be back at the factory with problems, and NOT be thoroughly range tested for any other problems beef being sent back to the customer, is a total lack of any concern for the end customer. Crap factory service.

Buying a Charter Arms revolver is like going to a casino and better at the roulette table on red or back. Its. 50-50 chance of winning or loosing.
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Old 09-24-2021, 07:16 PM
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For a short period of time, I owned an older Charter Arms Pathfinder of 80s vintage. Its barrel rifling and throat looked like new. It keyholed with any ammo that I could afford (Rem, Win, CCI). Sold it for the same $$ as bought to a fellow who said "it's Okay" and never looked back.
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Old 10-23-2021, 08:22 AM
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I have seen several new Charter Arms revolvers that were screwed up out of the box recently
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