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Old 11-30-2020, 04:37 PM
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Well more details came out. Seller claims he only put 100 rounds through it and was having “misfire” issues and sent the ammo he was using back to manufacturer upon their request. He said he received a refund for the ammunition but no explanation. He said he has not shot it since and has just sat in the safe. Sooo... He told me he wanted to be upfront with me about it. I have bought ammo from him in the past and he seems to be a stand up guy, but I want a gun that fires. Decisions decisions..
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Old 11-30-2020, 05:02 PM
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Ask him if you can have an opportunity to fire it with the ammo you prefer and see how it does. And also find out what ammo he was firing so you can avoid it. There is some really crappy ammo on the market these days- Winchester seems to be about in the running for the least reliable these days but there are others that have been a problem... might just be an ammo problem and not a problem with the rifle...
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Old 11-30-2020, 05:17 PM
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Ask him if you can have an opportunity to fire it with the ammo you prefer and see how it does. And also find out what ammo he was firing so you can avoid it. There is some really crappy ammo on the market these days- Winchester seems to be about in the running for the least reliable these days but there are others that have been a problem... might just be an ammo problem and not a problem with the rifle...
That’s exactly what I am going to propose, thanks! Yes Winchester Rimfire doesn’t work worth a crap in my 22’s or .17hmr.
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Old 11-30-2020, 05:50 PM
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Bolt internals might need to be cleaned too. First thing I did after I received mine was to take everything apart and clean the yellow preservative off. IIRC the inside of the bolt was filled with it
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I paid $400 for my Rusty which looked identical to ones not on the rusty shelf.
These came with a very nice adjustable aperture target sight. I would want the complete sight package, front and rear, for that price. Mine has the same scratch.
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Bolt internals might need to be cleaned too. First thing I did after I received mine was to take everything apart and clean the yellow preservative off. IIRC the inside of the bolt was filled with it
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I paid $400 for my Rusty which looked identical to ones not on the rusty shelf.
These came with a very nice adjustable aperture target sight. I would want the complete sight package, front and rear, for that price. Mine has the same scratch.
Good to know on the bolt, I will have a look at that.
He is including front and rear sights along with the scope and mount.
Hope to learn more soon.
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Old 11-30-2020, 07:38 PM
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Good to know on the bolt, I will have a look at that.
There's a good thread on bolt disassembly pinned to the top of the forum
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Old 11-30-2020, 09:25 PM
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Good to know on the bolt, I will have a look at that.
There's a good thread on bolt disassembly pinned to the top of the forum
That is a great “how to”. Thanks for pointing that out.
Looks like a test drive is not in the works. I am torn on this purchase. I have a gut feeling the bolt needs to be disassembled and cleaned, but I certainly could be wrong. I may try to offer less on the fact that it may have issues and see if he will budge and take my chances. What to do, what to do...
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Old 12-01-2020, 10:25 AM
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Bolt internals might need to be cleaned too. First thing I did after I received mine was to take everything apart and clean the yellow preservative off. IIRC the inside of the bolt was filled with it
Agree totally with PWNolan...

If you got a call tomorrow from him saying he sold the gun to another buyer, how would you feel?
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:23 AM
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Thanks all for the help, this site is great! I am going to get it and do a thorough cleaning before I shoot it. Couple more questions for y’all.
- Would it be a good idea to have the stock refinished at some point? (Affect value?)
- Should I keep the original sights or sell them since my old eyes require a scope these days?
- He doesn’t have the front sling swivel, what is a good site for Kimber parts?
Thanks again!!
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:45 AM
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Hey one ton

I am sorta late to the party but I would like to offer my observations.

That is definately a Kimber 82G, I own three of them and love each and every one of them.

Wolf, SK, Eley, Lapua, GECO, most all of the european sub sonic ammo shoots very good in my rifles. CCI SV is a bit tight and closing the bolt requires more effort. I do not shoot CCI SV in my rifles because of this which is too bad because I buy it by the case for my pistol shooting.

You can expect that it will shoot close to 1/2 inch at 50 yards using run of the mill sub sonic ammo, if you test ammo you should be able to get that down to about 0.35 inch or 0.30 inch. well, that is what I was able to maintain with my rifles.

The rifle that shot the worst I kept the iron sights on it and probably shoot it the mostest, I have a butt hook for it and use it for plinking off the front porch of the deer cabin. Favorite target is a old pressure tank at 140 yards or so. You can sit on the porch, shoot the water tank, set the rifle down, grab a potato chip, and hear the ping as the bullet hits the tank.

the other two rifles, I put scopes on them and pull them out every so often. I got Bill Calfee's book (availble on amazon) and using his instructions, slugged the barrel and lapped the two tight spots under the two scope blocks. Kept the tight spot from the front sight block but worked on the rear two and accuracy improved to about 1/4 inch at 50 with preferred ammo (SK pistol Match Special). From what I learned and observed, drilling and taping the barrel for the scope blocks and the front sight mount squeezed the barrel a little bit and it was evident from slugging the barrel. If you are interested, get Calfee's book, take your time, be patient, do a couple laps, slug the barrel, test it, repeat until you do not feel comfortable continuing. Remember, I kept the tight spot at the muzzle to keep the accuracy. Although I got better accuracy, I never got it to equal the accuracy of my winchester 52c but they are still fun to shoot.

I am sure you will enjoy your rifle as much as I enjoy mine.

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Old 12-01-2020, 11:48 AM
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Not sure if there is much of a market for the sights, but one thing to consider is if you try to sell this rifle sometime in the future it is always attractive to most buyers to have as much of the complete package that came with the rifle originally as possible...

As far as the stock refinishing- start off with some Old English furniture finish repair first to see if that will help that scratch. It has MEK in it, so use gloves , but the MEK will "melt" the surrounding finish and spread it around the scratch if you use it according to directions and possible cover most of the issue unless the scratch is into the wood. I wouldn't think refinishing would hurt the value any more than having the scratch on it now.....

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Old 12-01-2020, 12:21 PM
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Thanks Cranky and Bob for the information!
For the Old English, should I get it for dark or light wood (may be stupid question but don’t want to make a mess of it)? I would assume dark but want to be sure. Getting excited to pick it up Thursday!
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:41 PM
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This is what I got from the CMP...



a rusty that wasn't...

This is how it ended after sanding and several coats of rattle can lacquer.




Me, I'd fix it, no stain, just sand and spray.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:58 PM
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Brain picking time gmd1950 🙂. What grit paper did you use and was the rattle can lacquer satin finish? Looks great, nice job 👍
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