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Old 08-01-2020, 09:12 PM
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Shot my 1922 M2 (Converted) NRA version today at 50 yards. I had one called flyer when my rear bag slipped, other than that, the old gal did very well. She has a barrel that is dated 11-28 and shoots about anything you can stuff into the chamber. The three types on this target are Federal AutoMatch, CCI Standard Velocity, and Eley Club. She is still a grand ol' gal with a 20X Lyman Super Target Spot scope on her.



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Old 08-02-2020, 07:34 AM
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I've never heard of a M1922 that didn't shoot very well. Nice rifle, good shooting
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Old 08-02-2020, 11:04 PM
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Gives some of the new fangled high $ .22's a run
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Old 08-02-2020, 11:14 PM
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Yes, they sure can shoot. I never get bored shooting my M1922MI with a Unertl 14X scope.

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Yes! These Springfields are the way to go. I have a nra sales version m1 and a military version m2. They both shoot great!
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Old 11-07-2020, 06:16 PM
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Springfield 1922 M2 accuracy potential............

I frequently shot my Springfield and 52 Winchester side by side, there was no measurable difference in accuracy. When the time came to downsize recently, the 52 went and the Springfield stayed.
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Old 11-09-2020, 11:54 AM
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I have wanted a Springfield for years,,,

I have wanted a Springfield for years,,,
So my envy of you owners knows no bounds.

Just had to get that off my chest.

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Old 11-09-2020, 01:28 PM
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Something about those NRA models.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:55 PM
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There are usually 15 or 20 at the Tulsa show. Most have been through rebuild
but sometimes a collector grade shows up. Most sellers can't tell a beater from
a nice one. That makes looking for one there fun.
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I donít have a 1922, although I would love to find an affordable rifle. I have a scope question for anyone who knows, or has an opinion. What is considered military issue accurate when it comes to a scope on a 1922? Itís big brother, the 1903, was equipped with a Weaver 330, although there were some guns known to have the long Unertl style scopes as well. I believe it was the sniper versions that came equipped with a scope. Since the 1922 is mostly a 1903 trainer, what would be considered the ďperiod accurateĒ? I see that Hi-Lux sells period accurate scopes and mounts for the 1903. The mount would definitely require some amount of gunsmithing to mount properly. The reason I ask is because when I do eventually get a 1922 I would like to put a scope on it and I donít want to mess it up. Thanks for your input.
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Old 05-08-2021, 06:37 PM
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Beware of online info and speculation where mis-information gets recirculated like water in a closet fixture.
There are some other forums that are Very Detailed as to the specifics, you will do well to check them out. It will take time. (wish I could remember what a couple are...my recall has slipped)
And there is the old Brophy 'Bible' on the Springfield '03 that has a chapter on the 22's.
Fwiw, I spent about 10yrs finding the correct Win. A5 scope for my 1923 National Match to complete it as it was originally used.

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Old 05-08-2021, 10:20 PM
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ETTulia,

gcrank1 is exactly correct in what he says about misinformation. I have been collecting the
1922 series gallery practice rifles for about 30 years. I have learned from some books and articles from periodicals from back in the 1920's and 1930's. I have several books with information about the 1922 series
but the reference I still turn to most often is Brophy. They are still available in the $100 to $150
price range. It would be money well spent if you buy a copy to learn about them.

The original 1922 rifles, 2020 more or less were made, did not come drilled and tapped for target
scope blocs. The 1922M1 rifles that were made up for sale to NRA members and those made
up for issue to DCM affiliated rifle clubs came from Springfield Armory drilled and tapped for scope
blocks. The issue type 1922M1 and the issue type M2 rifles were not drilled and tapped for scope
blocks. This is a very broad brush explanation of a complicated subject. There are some
special models that are not covered in this explanation. Also, I have learned not use the words "never" and "always" when talking about what was done at Springfield Armory back in the day.

The Springfield .22's come up often on the internet gun auctions and in listings of guns for sale
on the internet. These rifles are frequently described incorrectly as to originally of parts and finish. Caveat emptor.
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:12 AM
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Dear Sirs,
Thank you for the info. I just ordered the book from Amazon for around $76. Iíve been watching 1922ís on GunBroker and there are definitely a lot of ways to lose a lot of money there. I also have a 1903 A3 that is an awesome shooter. I got the gun years ago when I thought I was going to shoot service rifle with it. Well, I didnít, but thatís a whole different story. Anyway, I think I got one thatís unmodified and like new; Iíll be interested to find out what it really is. At least now I will have the definitive information source available for when I get my 1922 project underway. Thanks again.
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Old 05-09-2021, 11:31 AM
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Watch out, they can become an addiction...
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Old 05-10-2021, 08:45 AM
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The question about period correct optics is interesting. Herschel is correct about the rifles that were factory D&T'ed for scopes, although I would add that about a hundred or so M2s were also produced as NRA Sales rifles and were D&T'ed for scope blocks.

To best determine what scopes were available, I looked up the general production dates of period scopes and compared it to the production dates of the three different 1922 models.

Here are the production years for the Springfield 1922:

Model of 1922 - 1922 to 1924
Model of 1922 MI - 1925 to 1933,
Cal. .22 M2 - 1933 to 1943

Here are the approximate production years of period scopes. Except for the J. Stevens scope, these were scopes that used the Winchester / Lyman style mounting blocks common at that time.

J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. - 1902 to 1929
Winchester A5 - 1910 to 1928, (Rights sold to Lyman in 1928)
J. W. Fecker Optics - mid 1922 to 1958
Lyman 5A - 1928 to ?
Lyman Targetspot - 1934 to ?
Lyman Junior/ SuperTargetspot - c.1937 to ?, (Lyman scope production ended in 1980)
Unertl Optical Company - 1934 to mid 1980s
R.A. Litschert Spot-Shot - Mid 1940's to 1961

So, if one compares rifle and scope production dates, you could surmise the following:

A scoped Model of 1922s would most likely have worn a Winchester A5, Fecker or J. Stevens scope. Of the three, the A5 would have been the most likely. Brophy's book also comments about the option of adding Winchester scope blocks to a rifle for a small fee. Any Model of 1922 found with a scope was done after its initial production. Most would have been modified by their owner, however, a few rifles that remained in Dept of Ordnance control were D&T'ed for scope blocks before they were sold. I have SN 36 which was made in 1922 and sold in 1936. Prior to it sale, it was inspected by Springfield Armory and reported as having scope blocks.

Mass production of the Model of 1922 MI, NRA Sales rifles began in 1927 ( at app. SN 7806), however, 9 earlier SN, shown as DCM sales, were assembled prior to this date. The first listed sale of an NRA Sales rifle is SN 8134 on 03/01/27. Thus, M1922MI rifles were like equipped with a Winchester A5, Fecker or Lyman 5A scope. One must also bare in mind that MI rifles were sold well beyond 1933 so later rifle owners would have had the option of some of the newer scopes like the Lyman Targetspots.

M2 rifles would be correct with all of the above, plus the different Lyman Targetspots and the Unertl scopes which began appearing in 1934.

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