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Old 02-22-2021, 06:53 PM
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On January 8, I ordered 6 boxes of CCI MiniMag HP ammo. They have yet to arrive, while my check to them was cashed several weeks ago.

Timeline:
--I opened an account
--I began to order the ammo.
--Website offered payment by card, but...... "server is down"
--Website offers payment by check
--I complete my order "order is on hold until pmt received"
--I sent check which was cashed

I have received no correspondence from them except on the day I ordered. One said, "welcome, here's your account". The other said, "order on hold until pmt received"

I have sent them 3 emails, and called them 3 times with no response......

So, save your hundred bucks cuz they still have mine.
According to the Harris County District Court records, the owner of Optics and Ammo, Christopher Eustice has been charged with felony theft charges on Dec. 2, 2020 and is currently out on bail with the next court date set as 5/11/2021 case number 170037801010 - 3.

Some interesting reading, sounds like he is behaving as usual. He has already changed attorneys, the state has made a motion to revoke bond, etc....

Since the website is still up and he is still stealing money, contact the District Attorney handling the case Mr. A. Brodrick and report the theft of your money. Maybe then the website can be shut down.

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Old 02-22-2021, 09:15 PM
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Wow! Great work finding out all that information I hope it's helpful for the folks that got taken.
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Old 02-23-2021, 02:47 AM
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The prices were too good to pass up so I'm taking a chance with this guy. After confirming the order, I sadly realized I'm badly overdrawn on my checking account so I guess crissy won't be getting a check in the mail after all.

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Old 02-23-2021, 07:37 AM
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can someone please explain how your bank gets your money back? the check's cashed. you wrote the check. i don't see how a bank can get involved in a bad business deal.
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Old 02-23-2021, 07:46 AM
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I think the bank would get involved because you were a victim of fraud. That site was setup for only one reason, scam people. It's not like they provided bad service or did crappy work. They sold something they never had the intention of providing. Wouldn't you want the bank to get involved?
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Old 02-23-2021, 09:54 AM
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still no explanation of what the bank would do to get you your money. or why they would even try. if i complained to my bank the soles of the boots fell off i bought from you do you think they would chase all over the country to get me my money back? i don't think it is in the description of what banks do. the courts maybe.
maybe someone in the banking business could chime in here.
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Old 02-23-2021, 10:20 AM
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still no explanation of what the bank would do to get you your money. or why they would even try. if i complained to my bank the soles of the boots fell off i bought from you do you think they would chase all over the country to get me my money back? i don't think it is in the description of what banks do. the courts maybe.
maybe someone in the banking business could chime in here.
https://library.nclc.org/getting-mon...ard%20payments).
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Old 02-23-2021, 12:37 PM
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still no explanation of what the bank would do to get you your money. or why they would even try. if i complained to my bank the soles of the boots fell off i bought from you do you think they would chase all over the country to get me my money back? i don't think it is in the description of what banks do. the courts maybe.
maybe someone in the banking business could chime in here.
Bank has access to account, Bank takes money out of account. Think of a charge back on a credit card, thats one of the reasons they stopped accepting credit cards most likely. Have you ever made a mistake on a deposit and the Bank takes out the difference?
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Once funds have left a checking account there is no recourse through the account holder's bank.

Snipped from the text in the link above:

"But in practice, when a consumer has been scammed, it will usually be too late to stop the payment."

You're right Bob, a very good reason to use a credit (not debit)card for on line purchases. We do have recourse through the credit card issuer. It's a pain but you can get your money back.

With a check or debit card, once the funds have left the account it's all over but the crying.

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Old 02-23-2021, 11:13 PM
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If someone did get scammed by this guy, in the article I posted above has a new website to report fraud:

ReportFraud.FTC.gov is a new, one-stop website for any form of scam and method of payment. The website takes the necessary information from the consumer, advises as to the next steps depending on the nature of the scam and the consumer’s payment, and sends the information along to the appropriate law enforcement agencies, including more than 3000 law enforcers. For legal aid and other consumer organizations looking for a data driven way to track fraud reports that the organization files on behalf of consumers, contact [email protected] to get a dedicated link to ReportFraud.FTC.gov.

In addition to ReportFraud.FTC.gov, for each payment method, consumers should consider filing complaints directly with:

• The bank and any other payment provider or store;
• The police;
• The FBI’s Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) at ic3.gov;
• The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) at https://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/;
• The state attorney general.
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Old 02-24-2021, 01:53 AM
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Holy Cow, what a train wreck!

https://casetext.com/case/eustice-v-...gric-mech-coll

Cliff Notes of the above.

Nonstop hilarity
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Plaintiff's inappropriate correspondence was filed in the record under seal as Exhibits A-E to the LSU Defendants' opposition brief. (R. Doc. 110). The LSU Defendants aptly summarize the irrelevant, unsolicited, and harassing correspondence from Plaintiff as follows:

• "During the period October 8-26, 2019, [Plaintiff] sent a series of e-mails to counsel for the defendants in which he discussed the size of his genitalia, claimed he had been sexually harassed about the size of his genitalia after his arrest, and forwarded links to multiple articles about the size of male genitalia. Exhibit A."

• "On September 6, 2019, [Plaintiff] e-mailed the attorneys representing the LSU Defendants a link to a story about a man having sex with pool noodles. Exhibit B. On another occasion (dating back to the period of time before he was represented by counsel), he e-mailed a link to a story about a man who pressured a town into repairing its pot holes by spray-painting male genitalia on the pot holes."

• "On September 5, 2019, [Plaintiff] used e-mail to forward to the attorneys representing the LSU Defendants a lengthy and sexually-graphic text message exchange he had with a friend of his. The text-message exchange is mostly a series of texts from Mr. Eustice with very little response from his friend, who did comment at one point that 'you're a weird f**king dude.' Exhibit C."

• "During the month of August 2019, [Plaintiff] sent the attorneys for the LSU Defendants a series of bizarre e-mails with photographs of persons in hospital beds suffering from ailments associated with vaping. Exhibit D."

• "[Plaintiff] periodically sends e-mails with screen-prints and information he obtained from the Facebook pages of the defense attorneys (all while ironically insisting he is innocent of cyberstalking). Exhibit E."

• "[Plaintiff] routinely sends e-mails about the National Football League and the performance of his favorite teams. He also routinely sends e-mails with photographs of President Trump, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and other politicians and celebrities."

Several of Plaintiff's emails inappropriately highlight his attraction to Ms. Martter and Ms. Hadden through discussions of their physical appearances and his own physique:

• February 21, 2020, at 12:52 a.m. - "As many of you are aware, John Murrill has made a habit of being dishonest in his frivolous pleadings. Among his extremely absurd claims is that I was obsessed with Megan Martter. I would hope my lack of serious interest in her would be clear from my texts and emails. Megan is cute, but I am far from obsessed with her." (R. Doc. 145-1 at 17).

• February 22, 2020, at 10:03 pm - "I'm also 6 feet 3 in. tall while Megan is around 5 feet tall. It's a pretty big height difference. It's not easy to make that work. I am into taller women as I am a rather large individual and being a semi professional bodybuilder means that I am also more well suited with taller women because I can still easily lift a woman who is taller than I am. There is this 6 foot 5 inch tall Polish girl who always works out at my gym and I think I should ask her out on a date but I don't really know her." (R. Doc. 145-1 at 17).

• February 22, 2020, at 10:41 pm - I also want to mention that I prefer women who have lighter colored eyes. I have blue eyes. I really prefer women with blue eyes. Megan has brown eyes. But there are still some women out there with brown eyes who are very attractive to me. Allison Brassette is very attractive and significantly taller than Megan Martter. I can send you over a years [sic] worth of text messages that can prove Allison was my girlfriend from Fall 2017 to January 2019. Why would I be obsessed with Megan Martter as you falsely allege? Lauren Hadden is also a very attractive example of a tall woman with brown eyes. She kept glancing over at me in court and I think she was checking me out, but I'm not sure." (R. Doc. 145-1 at 16-17).
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