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Old 05-17-2015, 06:49 AM
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Lifted from another site but interesting read on accuracy.
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/0...p-size-matter/
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Old 05-17-2015, 07:19 AM
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Thanks for that great link!! Very interesting read. that my a something I have to subscribe to. Looks to have a deep library of useful information.
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Old 05-17-2015, 11:26 AM
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That is a great read, thanks for posting that!
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Old 05-17-2015, 03:25 PM
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The sad part is that he reports the outcome the opposite of what it's really saying - that if your rifle has already made 3/4" groups - you are better off paying for a lot of ammo, a membership to a long range club, and some professional training.

In essence - dumping your $750 rem 700 pss for a $10,000 custom rifle only increases your probability of a hit by like 10%. In fact - it's worse than that. If you never practice you will never make the hit no matter how much you spend. There's no substitute for trigger time and focused training.

Spend $1,000 on long range target training, wind reading, and aids to help deal with the effects of atmospheric conditions and you will be WAY better off.

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Old 05-17-2015, 08:52 PM
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and it has little to to with real life shooting......

i shot a 1000 yd match today......7-15mph gusts....
have never seen 2.5 mph in a sustained time frame at 1000 yds....
i do not shoot at 10 " circles...
who does...mil type shooters shoot an x of 1 moa and a 10 ring of 2 moa....
this is the crowd he is addressing..IMHO.
in their type of shooting the costs to move up just a little is very big.

in benchrest..typically 10" does not make it..tho on a windy day like today..it might.

( a 10 mph wind will move your bullet SIXTY plus inches at 1000 yards)
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:46 PM
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You could run any target size you wanted through that program, so I wouldn't get too hung up on that.

The conclusion I arrived at, like truckjohn said, is that practice is key (which should be obvious).

Get yourself a rifle that will shoot 0.5 MOA and practice.

Spending the rest of your hard earned cash on ammo and trigger time will be worth more to you than a new barrel that will take the gun to 0.3 MOA.

BTW, how did that match go for ya? Never shot at a grand before, 600 is tops over here.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:33 PM
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Another thought on real world accuracy. In the book, The Hunting Rifle, Jack O'Connor states the quick kill zone for most game animals in North America is about 6" in diameter. That is to say, if you can regularly hit a 6" circle at the distance between you and that deer you want to eat, that is good enough accuracy to get the job done. If you are a competition shooter, then it is a different story entirely.

Regardless of any of that, as others have said, there is no short cut to accuracy. There is nothing intuitive about accurate shooting. Learning proper technique and lots of trigger time are required to hit even that 6" circle with regularity.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:08 AM
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NBRSA heavy and light gun 1000 yd match at the colorado rifle club...in byers co, about 40 east of denver.
they will hold the 600/1000 NATIONALS in june.
i shot a 6mm dasher in light gun and a 300 win mag in heavy.
if you plan on shooting bench rest a 1/2 moa gun will not cut it....
that is 5" at 1000 and the record is under 1.5".
it might work in palma and maybe in f class.

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You could run any target size you wanted through that program, so I wouldn't get too hung up on that.

The conclusion I arrived at, like truckjohn said, is that practice is key (which should be obvious).

Get yourself a rifle that will shoot 0.5 MOA and practice.

Spending the rest of your hard earned cash on ammo and trigger time will be worth more to you than a new barrel that will take the gun to 0.3 MOA.

BTW, how did that match go for ya? Never shot at a grand before, 600 is tops over here.
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I've heard it referred to as the waterline where when testing loads at 1000 you only worry about the height of the group.
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Old 05-25-2015, 05:42 PM
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because you have little control on left right wind.
BUT
if the wind is in your face or at your back..forget about testing.

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I've heard it referred to as the waterline where when testing loads at 1000 you only worry about the height of the group.
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