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Old 01-15-2013, 10:32 PM
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I don't live in New York so it won't affect me one way or another but do you think the 10 shot 617 will now be illegal in the state due to maximum 7-round magazine law?
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:51 PM
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Does a revolver equate to a magazine?
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:06 AM
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how about speed loaders for the 617?
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:50 AM
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I don't live in New York so it won't affect me one way or another but do you think the 10 shot 617 will now be illegal in the state due to maximum 7-round magazine law?
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Its a revolver, so its not affected, I think.

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how about speed loaders for the 617?
Good question, I honestly don't know how that's supposed to work seeing as according to the letter of the law the 8 round en-bloc clips for an M1 Garand are now illegal if you put more than 7 rounds in it.
How you manage to put 7 rounds in it is a mystery to me.
Guess the M! guys are just going to be forced to buy some of the modified clips that only hold 5 rounds.
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I live in NY and have a 617 on hold. The ffl won't let me take it home till they get clarity on the law. This is a CF of a situation.
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Hopefully, S&W will get smart and move their entire operation out of N.Y.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:28 PM
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Hopefully, S&W will get smart and move their entire operation out of N.Y.
When did Smith and Wesson move into New York? The last time I drove past their place it was in Mass.
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When did Smith and Wesson move into New York? The last time I drove past their place it was in Mass.
S&W in NY? Exactly-still in Springfield,Mass.Revolvers won't be affected,and neither will ten shot magazines currently in the hands of consumers,however dealers aren't taking any chances,or risking their FFL on nebulous stuff.(the user is supposed to limit loading them to seven rounds.) More than 10 round capacity magazines are supposed to be sold to someone out of state within a year,if I understand the ruling by Caesar Cuomo correctly.
I'm a NYer,not affected at all,though I guess my occasional desire for a Volquartsen just got squashed.
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Its a revolver, so its not affected, I think.


Good question, I honestly don't know how that's supposed to work seeing as according to the letter of the law the 8 round en-bloc clips for an M1 Garand are now illegal if you put more than 7 rounds in it.
How you manage to put 7 rounds in it is a mystery to me.
Guess the M! guys are just going to be forced to buy some of the modified clips that only hold 5 rounds.
A Garand doesn't use the typical detachable magazine that they seemed to be concerned with.
It might also be considered a C&R gun.
Remember,the gun laws are being drafted by non-gunnies-anything that looks like an AR or AK,that can have a 30 round mag hanging out of the bottom,or has a folding stock,is in the spotlight.....Is someone going to get worked up over a Springfield 1903 with a Pedersen loading device?
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I live in NY and have a 617 on hold. The ffl won't let me take it home till they get clarity on the law. This is a CF of a situation.
That really stinks... Not the dealer's fault, but shame on the NY legislators for legislating before thinking.
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I think with speedloaders they can get you on" other loading device".
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I thought it had to be a "detachable" magazine

If so, revolvers would be exempt.
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Would the no loading more than seven rounds thing still apply for high capacity revolvers like it would for grandfathered in mags? Either way it makes no sense as if you allow ten round mags, I'm sure someone with criminal intent is going to limit themselves to seven merely on the honor system

You'd think the law makers would have paid attention to all the news reports at various gun stores where owners showed how fast someone can easily change mags without being exposed for long. It doesn't matter if it's seven or thirty with detachable mags, though I can't say the same thing about my revolvers, especially since they're single action. Then again, I have convertibles, so I could do cylinder swaps moderately fast
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Good question, I honestly don't know how that's supposed to work seeing as according to the letter of the law the 8 round en-bloc clips for an M1 Garand are now illegal if you put more than 7 rounds in it.
How you manage to put 7 rounds in it is a mystery to me.
Guess the M! guys are just going to be forced to buy some of the modified clips that only hold 5 rounds.

Or load an empty casing on the bottom of the clip?
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