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Old 05-17-2019, 06:06 PM
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Savage Model 3? That was a single shot and the bolt and receiver sure look similar.
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More research: Pulling out my Mossberg history book, Havlin's "More Gun for the Money", my gun most resembles the Mossberg Model C, 1931 - 32.
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Savage Model 3? That was a single shot and the bolt and receiver sure look similar.
On my gun, the finger grooves end at the takedown bolt and go further forward to the front of the stock. But very close. The Model 3 was made from 1933 - 52.

Research has shown me that Mossberg worked for Stevens until 1919, and maintained good relations with his former employer after starting his own company.
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The receiver is the same as my model B which has an open slot all the way back.
My model C has a bridge across the receiver back of the bolt handle. The bolt is exactly the same as my model C. The model C was an upgraded model B. There are different bolt designs of the B, 1 piece and 2 piece bolts, some with a screw on top to hold them together and different firing pins. Mossberg often sold his guns to "houses" and used up surplus parts to do so. It makes sense to me that yours is a late model B, ca. 1930-1931
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The receiver is the same as my model B which has an open slot all the way back.
My model C has a bridge across the receiver back of the bolt handle. The bolt is exactly the same as my model C. The model C was an upgraded model B. There are different bolt designs of the B, 1 piece and 2 piece bolts, some with a screw on top to hold them together and different firing pins. Mossberg often sold his guns to "houses" and used up surplus parts to do so. It makes sense to me that yours is a late model B, ca. 1930-1931
Thank you, very helpful. I am going with Model C because of the 24" barrel and overall 41" length. The B had 22" and 40" respectively. Plus finger grooves, common to all Cs but only the last of the Bs. Mine does not have the bridge, which on a C that I just saw online was in front of the bolt handle. (If it was in back, you couldn't take the bolt out.)

Maybe just call it a "B/C" and be done with it!

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Took the Witte/Mossie to the range today, and shot it open sights @ 40 feet, using front and rear bags. Didn't take the 146 B-A due to time constraints. Gotta get to a gun show this afternoon.

Tried only a few types of ammo, but it proved itself to be a good shooter nonetheless. I struggled with the sights the whole time; the rear notch is too narrow IMO, and the indoor range lighting didn't help. Also, it was not all that good at extracting both types of Federal ammo. CCI SV, Blazer, and Eley Edge were no prob. I would put it down to the cases Federal makes. (Not to make a Federal case out of this, but.....)

On the target you see four numbered groups. I measured them end-to-end with my digital measuring thing and subtracted 0.22" for C-to-C results. Measurements are four shots of the five-shot group. They are:
Federal Ultra Match, 0.30" (the top of this group is cropped off, sorry)
Eley Edge, 0.36"
CCI SV, 0.40"
CCI SV, 0.49"

This is just a preliminary shakedown. When I got it home, I filed the rear notch wider, then blackened the front post and rear notch with my permanent marker. Let's see what it can do with these improvements. Pity I can't stick a scope on it.....
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Picked this gun up at the gun show yesterday. It's a JC Higgins Model 103.18, which cross-refs to a Marlin Model 100. Very clean and smooth action, very nice stock, needs some bluing work. I imagine it will shoot very well. Wednesday I will take it and the Mossie B/C to the range and test 'em out. It's the top one in the pics, with the B/C for comparison. Same barrel length. Nice buckhorn rear sight! Brass bead front sight. Trigger pull is 4.5#, which I will probably bring down with a spring change, along with polishing the engagement surfaces for a smoother feel.

A nicer gun overall, with more heft to it too. Paid $125.
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