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Old 04-27-2019, 12:39 PM
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Hi, a local club has a Sunday silhouette match, but one can only use cast bullets. I'm going to roll some 30-06 using some on-hand 155g flat-point gas-check bullets for my first foray.

Asuming I can hit them, What velocity should I aim for in order to ensure that the heavy rams fall at 200 meters? How much energy does it require to knock them down.

Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, E.
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:29 PM
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I can't speak for your 06, or distance. But will say that we shoot the same scale for our centerfire handgun shoots at our club. Chickens at 20, rams at 30, pigs at 40, and turkeys at 50 yards. We also shoot only cast , it helps keep the targets from getting destroyed.
I shoot .357 with 158 SWC at about 1, 150 fps, and 44Special 240 RNFP at around 950 fps. They both hit the pigs pretty hard at 40 yards.

You should be OK at the distance, and hit with the 06.
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:52 PM
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Have you ever cast bullets before? If not there is this gentleman that shoots nothing but cast bullets. He recommends that you should slug your bore first to determine correct bullet size which will assist in preventing leading of the barrel. He normally runs bullets at 1600 fps without gas checks and leading of the barrel. Above 1600 fps he recommends gas checks.

He states that leading of any firearm when using cast bullet almost always a case of
"poor and/improper fit of the bullet to the throat/bore and or cylinder mouths in a revolver."
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:52 PM
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We do an annual mil-surp cast bullet sil. match (private shoot, not club); among the scrum we have 30-40K, 30-06, 308, the Big Rusky, a Swiss, a Brit 303 and someone threatened to bring a 577 Snider .
The 30's typically run 1250-1400ish fps and do better on the 200yd buff's with 180#, a hit a about anywhere will take 'em off the rail. With the little 155 LEE 7.62x39 bullet, which does really shoot well, you need to be centered and in the top half of the critter for reliable take downs.
Btw, most of is are using .311 dia. in the USA mil-30s, one or two may take .312. The rule of thumb is to use as large a dia. cast bullet as comfortably fits into a fully fire-formed to each chamber brass that will still extract cleanly.
Fwiw, .309-.310 tend to lead the bore. Scrubbing lead out is NO way to spend post shoot time.
And, These Shoots Are WAY Big Fun!
I campaign an original '98 Krag rifle for irons class and a 1950's sporterized 1918 SF'03 with a Weaver K4 for scoped class. Both shoot better than I can any more and are fully capable to win or place.
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Thanks for the help. Funny that that you should mention the milsurp match as I intend to use my 03.
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We are probably as many '03s as all the rest
I forgot to mention, I have been happily using the Lee Neck Size Die in 30-06 for years. Decap, neck size just a smidge to hold the .311, recap, powder, seat bullet and done; Way Easy. I got my Neck Size Die only, not the set, from Midway, iirc. This makes brass last about forever and saves A Lot of Time!
The Ed Harris 'Universal .30Cal Load' info is spot on and online.
And we also use Ben's Liquid Lube the last couple of years.
My Lyman 450 Luber/Sizer has been sitting since I often can use as cast bullets or, if I must size, use the Lee Push Thru Die then dip into the Ben's.
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Required power for rams will depend on the range set up. In the lever action silhouette game, we shoot 200m full size rams. Results vary. Most top shooters are using 170 gr bullets at 2000+ fps for reliable knock down of rams. But milder loads can certainly work. For cast I would try a heavier bullet so less velocity would be needed. Try what you have, and have fun!
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