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Old 05-08-2019, 06:38 PM
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Does anyone own or carry the M 43 C ?



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I have both a no lock M49 in blue and a M442 airweight, both in .38 special, but that 43C 8 shot .22 LR, DAO has really caught my eye.

Would like to hear from any owners and especially if anyone uses it as a carry piece. My hands are et up with RA and recoil sensitivity is becoming more of an issue, along with hand strength. Pretty much can't rack any of my 1911 carry pieces and even racking my M41 is becoming an issue.

Don't need to hear about the .22 as a defensive round, if nothing else it does beat harsh language. Mainly to be used for practice since it's pretty identical to the 442 except for caliber.

Thanks for any informed responses.

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Old 05-08-2019, 08:46 PM
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Sorry to hear about your RA. Welcome to the Golden Years.

My wife and I discussed this very issue but decided we wanted the option of shooting single action as well.
We decided to get a model 317 and a model 351PD.
Of the two, I like the 351PD better because of the fiber optic front sight and, being a .22 magnum, it hits a bit harder.
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:17 PM
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[QUOTE][Does anyone own or carry the M 43 C ?][QUOTE]

I can't say I own one but I have been lusting after a 43-C for about 3 years now. A local dealer got in 6 about 3 years ago and they did not sell due to the high list price. From what I have read many of those made about that time had to go back to S&W for various issues. Some say the aluminum cylinder will not hold up if they are shot a lot. That was never my intention either so I was not particularly concerned about that issue. Most of the reviews pretty well show a pattern rather than a group due to the 11 oz. weight. I was not worried about that either. I still want one! They have 1 of the 6 still left at my local dealer marked down to $542. I looked at it today!

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Old 05-10-2019, 07:57 PM
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Sorry to hear about your RA. Welcome to the Golden Years.

My wife and I discussed this very issue but decided we wanted the option of shooting single action as well.
We decided to get a model 317 and a model 351PD.
Of the two, I like the 351PD better because of the fiber optic front sight and, being a .22 magnum, it hits a bit harder.
I thought about the .22 Mag, but ammo cost and the amount of practice needed to get decent with a DAO snubbie put that off. Plus, I have nearly 2 full cases of Wolf MT in storage.

Could do SA with the M49, but I'm going to hold off a bit with that. Bought as used, but a real close inspection pretty much revealed it to be unfired in the box. Even the brown corrosion paper in the box is unwrinkled. Ser# puts it at 1976 and there are no marks, burns, or scratches that show up under a 20x loupe.

The 442 airweight is nearly perfect mechanically, but the finish has been banged around. Not going to hesitate a bit to shoot the slop out of it.

My wife fell in love with the airweight but was a bit hesitant about the .38 spl recoil. When I mentioned it could be had in .22 lr her eyes lit up.

We'll see, at least one is going to get bought and his and hers isn't out of the question.

Thanks for the input.

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Old 05-10-2019, 08:05 PM
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[QUOTE=beb42503;11476211][QUOTE][Does anyone own or carry the M 43 C ?]
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I can't say I own one but I have been lusting after a 43-C for about 3 years now. A local dealer got in 6 about 3 years ago and they did not sell due to the high list price. From what I have read many of those made about that time had to go back to S&W for various issues. Some say the aluminum cylinder will not hold up if they are shot a lot. That was never my intention either so I was not particularly concerned about that issue. Most of the reviews pretty well show a pattern rather than a group due to the 11 oz. weight. I was not worried about that either. I still want one! They have 1 of the 6 still left at my local dealer marked down to $542. I looked at it today!

Suckers certainly aren't cheap! That $542 is about the cheapest I've seen and most on GB in the $560to $600 range.

I've also yet to see a used one offered anywhere, which is telling. People sure aren't in a hurry to get rid of them.

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Old 05-10-2019, 08:25 PM
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Anything that is good quality costs a bunch these days. I justify paying the price by thinking it will just be worth that much more later if I decide to sell it. I donít like to cut corners on anything I may use for self defense.

I just checked Gunbroker and the lowest priced 43C is $578.

What drove us to buy the 317 is that my wife does carry a 637 in .38 spl. She really doesnít like to practice with it though so she practices with the .22 caliber 317 which looks and feels just like the 637. Doing it that way has enabled her to become fairly proficient with the little airweights.

Good luck in your search.
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I bought a second hammer for my 317 & ‘bobbed’it. (Is bobbed a real word?) not a smooth as the 43c but Ok.
My experience with the 317 leads me to Really want a 43c !
However....
The little.22’s have very heavy trigger.
I know... reliable ignition. So I bought Wolff spring kits & smoothed the action. And never a misfire.
IMHO (one of many) the .22 is the best personal defense round. At least for most all folk.
I load CCI Quik Shok, 32gr, (1100 FPS through crony.). In a dark hallway, with a .357, you will get ONE shot off. Then you are both deaf and blinded. With a .22 you are still able to respond.

I may have to sell something & get a 43c!
Or Kel-Tec CP33.

More good info:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/w...ocket-pistols/

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I have the 351C and would be fine with a 43C.
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Old 05-13-2019, 04:23 PM
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I have a S&W 43C and like it.

I also have been having a loss of hand strength and dislike heavy recoil. I have owned the S&W 43C for at least two and maybe three years now. I bought it to practice with as a less expensive way than shooting the basically same Centennial Models I have in .22 magnum, .32 H&R magnum and .38 Special. The 43C shoots well. The trigger pull on the rimfire revolvers has to be a bit heavier to make sure the rimfire cartridge goes bang. I like the big front sight. I will mention that if I had to carry it for self protection, I would feel comfortable. The CCI Velocitor out of that short barrel isn't really much off the .22 magnum with the same barrel length. I have read a number of ballistic tests and suggest anyone interested do also. Like many things in life, test results vary. Opinions vary. We probably all agree bigger is better from a stopping perspective. And we recognize we always are making a compromise of one sort or another. The cannon that gives the best stopping power may be left home but the little mouse gun may be carried 100% of the time. Back to the 43C, it can be carried in the pocket comfortably with the small boot grip. Likewise the 351 PD .22 magnum. When I get to the .32 H&R magnum or .38 Special, I feel I need the larger grips. At that point, they don't fit in my pocket. I often wear shirts tucked in, so pocket carry gets the nod. And in some cases, the pockets are not deep enough so I end up with a .380 S&W Bodyguard, which is shorter and is more out of sight. I hope this discussion helps you. Whether to carry or just as a practice to the same in centerfire, a good gun to buy.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:07 PM
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I just sold one that I had owned for two years.
About 400 rounds through it and the trigger had smoothed up nicely.
Found a FFL retiring on Gunbroker and selling it as “new, old stock “.
My wife shot it well and I was very pleased with it, but decided to get a 317 so it had to go.
It would make a great trainer for a 642.
That’s why I bought mine originally, but now my carry guns are auto only .

If you get one, I don’t think you will be disappointed.
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Went ahead and jumped on a very decent deal on a M43C. Just committed this afternoon and will get the paperwork and the $$$ going Monday morning.

Will update.

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Just got mine in and did a through action clean up with reduced hammer & rebound springs. Very much smoother & lighter. Now to the range for reliability check.
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Anything that is good quality costs a bunch these days. I justify paying the price by thinking it will just be worth that much more later if I decide to sell it. I donít like to cut corners on anything I may use for self defense.

I just checked Gunbroker and the lowest priced 43C is $578.

What drove us to buy the 317 is that my wife does carry a 637 in .38 spl. She really doesnít like to practice with it though so she practices with the .22 caliber 317 which looks and feels just like the 637. Doing it that way has enabled her to become fairly proficient with the little airweights.

Good luck in your search.
I NEVER buy a gun justifying the price on resale.........I buy I keep it.
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43c Update 😁
Tried an experiment. A lighter hammer spring than I normally choose. 8.5 # down from 9 #. 11# return, same as my usual mod.
Range results : all ammo tested fired reliably. Especially my carry ammo, CCI Segmented 32 grain.

The 43c has a new firing pin design: a vertical rectangle, not a round pin. Even with the lighter spring the rim is deformed, crushed, a lot.

Very pleased.
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Second range trip had a few rounds that fired on second hit. So, upped hammer spring to 9#. Well update after next range visit. The little Smith ’points’ very naturally.
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