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Old 05-27-2019, 09:41 AM
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Hello all. In my quest to set up with pellet guns, I have been checking prices on CO2 cartridges. The 12g ones. The cheapest I found was at Walley, where you can get a Crosman box of 40 for 15.84 (rollback) . That work out to less than 40 cents per.

In doing my math, it appears if you only need target level power, the CO2 is more economical that PCP, being the compressor up front cost is so high. I ASSUMED I would get about 40 shots per cylinder in my calculations. Buying a 200 (weak quality) compressor yields a 20000 plus round break even.

Has anyone found less expensive CO2, even if I had to buy a few hundred, I have not found anything cheaper than Walley has.
Is there any source for unbranded 12g at a great price?

Is my assumption that CO2 is best for informal target, or am I missing something big in regards to PCP? I do not intend to use it to hunt or for long range.

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Old 05-27-2019, 12:33 PM
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Consistency is the key to a target pellet rifle. Not velocity. A pre-measured source of CO2 delivered through a good barrel will do that at 10 meters. The one pump 853 CMP is an example of consistency.

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Old 05-27-2019, 03:44 PM
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Ran across this place that sold CO2. A little cheaper but not sure whether it is worth it. I have not gotten around to trying them. $0.33/$0.34 each.

http://www.redrockminnesota.com/12-gram-unthreaded/

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Ran across this place that sold CO2. A little cheaper but not sure whether it is worth it. I have not gotten around to trying them. $0.33/$0.34 each.

http://www.redrockminnesota.com/12-gram-unthreaded/
those do not have the additives that the cylinders designed for air gun use have in them -
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:04 PM
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That's interesting SJ, I thought the fill was pure CO2. Would you have a reference? I'd like to read about that.

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With rechargeable batteries and digital electronics as cheap as they are now, I'm waiting for someone with the necessary skillz to do the obvious & put 2+2 together to provide temp stabilization for the C02 ampule so that you can shoot as fast as you like w/o the pressure fluctuating wildly from 1st to last shot. A little heating wrap around the capsule, a thermistor and some feedback circuitry and Robert's your mum's favorite brother!
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I thought the charge was pure CO2 also. Just thought you had to put a drop of Pellgun oil in it ever once in a while to keep the seals soft.
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I thought the charge was pure CO2 also. Just thought you had to put a drop of Pellgun oil in it ever once in a while to keep the seals soft.
That has been my understanding. I would like to know the source that states there is an additive in those for pellet gun use.
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:14 AM
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just checked my supply - Daisy 8 + 12 gr state on box + cartridge { contains oil } - Crossman states { formulated for air gun use , Not for human consumption - Beeman
+ RWS { state not for human consumption ] - the drop of oil will only lube the piercing needle + not the internals -

http://www.redrockminnesota.com/12-gram-unthreaded/ food grade with no additives for seltzer drinks -
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I dug out the Crossman SDS on their Powerlets. If oil was added it would be listed. Also some of the drop of oil most of us put on the cap of a new cartridge before piercing does migrate into the mechanism. I didn't look for Gamo/Daisy/Beeman SDS sheets so maybe they are different.

"There are no additional ingredients present to the knowledge of the supplier, and in applicable
concentrations, that are classified as hazardous to health or the environment that would require
reporting in this section."

https://www.crosman.com/media/pdf/ms...ets%20V2.0.pdf

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that SDS list does not state full contents - the fact that the air gun cylinders all state that they are not for human consumption makes it clear to me that the content is different then the ones used for soda or seltzer production - even the MSDS sheets do not specify small quantities of additives or contaminants - in one of the old Beeman news letters it stated that the food grade CO2 contained sodium chloride that could cause rusting in steel air gun barrels IIRC -

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I had a pump Benjamin way back...
Ive always wondered why co2 and not just air?? esp w/ the newer guns w/ the couple thousand pounds pressure??


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That has been my understanding. I would like to know the source that states there is an additive in those for pellet gun use.
As I understand it the "food grade" co2 cartridges are safe for air guns....the little oil is all that is needed.
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The cheapest CO2 cartridges are usually the Crosman 40 packs at Walmart. I've seen them as low as $12/40 pack when purchased online.
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