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Old 05-31-2019, 02:05 PM
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I would like to see more of the Zastava product line. They do a cz99 in 22mag. They do a real m98 mauser based model 70 with double set triggers. They also got some stuff I hate, but so does everyone else. Like you say, the metal finish is excellent and the the stocks are a good opportunity to practice with Tru-Oil. Oh and, some interesting, old school, metric calibers. The problem is no-one imports those and the M70 I did see were all single triggers.
I have a couple of the Zastava CZ-99s in .22lr and one in .22 Mag, they are quite good for the price, all steel, beautiful metal finish. Stocks not so much but as you say, strip the original stain and go for a rubbed oil finish and they look quite presentable. The triggers are decent and screwdriver adjustable. I also have their Interarms Mk X Mannlicher in .270 Winchester, deluxe model with double set trigger, a lot of rifle for the money, especially bought used. Zastava has a full stock version of the 99, it looks really good, I hope to see it imported to the US soon. Again all wood and steel, including the for-end cap, not plastic as in the CZ full stock models. Some cheap details such as that on the CZs are very disappointing.
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Just what parts and design the Escort shares with the 452 is unknown. Some say the bolts interchange but mine do not. I haven't investigated further than just swapping bolts. Neither would close.
Even though the bolts between my CZ-452 Trainer and my Escort will swap and work, your comment made me curious so I swapped bolts with a CZ-452 Varmint rifle. Again, both worked.

My conclusion is that swapping bolts between the Escort and a CZ-452 may or may not work depending upon the individual part tolerances.
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Very interesting. I may sit down mic in hand with both bolts and see where the difference is. When I picture these rifles being assembled a Stanley 25' tape measure comes to mind as being a valuable machinist tool. In other words, the Hatsan tolerances are very....tolerant.
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When I picture these rifles being assembled a Stanley 25' tape measure comes to mind as being a valuable machinist tool.
Now that's FUNNY!! LOL
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:40 AM
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I have two CZ 99 Precisions and I paid $200 for one new in the box and $170 for the other, as new in the box.

The first shoots ok - 1.5 MOA 5 shot groups at 100 yards with Sk Std Plus. The other however shoots as well as any of my Czech CZs. This is the first group I shot when bore sighting it and it's a typical 50 yard group:



The metal is nicely polished, but I'm not much of a fan of the "sorta finished" stocks on the past CAI imported rifles. On the other hand Stocky's bought all of Remingtons left over MOdel 5 stocks so it's a fairly cheap upgrade ($75) to go with a new old stock Model 5 laminated stock, and they look nice on the rifle.





I also have three of the Zastava made M80 Mini-Mausers. Interarms was the flagship importer beginning in 1980 until the arms embargo. Charles Daly imported them post embargo after Interarms folded its tent with a composite stock, and Remington imported them for a few years as the Remington Model 799 with a laminated stock. CAI imported them until recently with a wood stock that was finished with something that had all the charm of shoe polish. Now Zastava USA is the sole importer of Zastava rifles.

I have two of the Mini Mausers in .22 Hornet and they are both sub MOA rifles. One (a CAI imported M80) will consistently shoot 1/2 MOA 5 shot groups with 35 gr Hornady V-Max factory ammo or non heroic level of effort reload using 40 gr V-Max bullets. The other (a Remington Model 799) shoots consistent 3/4 MOA 5 shot groups with the same ammo.

My third is a CAI imported M80 in .223 Rem. It accurate, but not all that stable as the POI starts to walk as the barrel heats up. Zastava uses hammer forged barrels and the bore surfaces are smooth, precise and very durable, but the process requires perfect stress relief, and the missed the mark on my .223.

I'm not a big fan of the CAI stocks, but Numerich Arms acquired all the left over Interarms stocks, and I bought three of them for my Mini-Mausers. Unfortunately, the third one I bought was also the last one they had. The wood on one of them is very nice.



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My first ever rifle was an Interarms Mk X (a Zastava Model 70), which is a very nice commercial Mauser 98 with excellent finish on the metal. Interarms began importing them in 1970 and sold them in a classic stocked version, a white line teniite tipped version, and a full stock version, as well as in a barreled action only version. They also had a Whitworth Express version in heavier calibers like .300 H&H and .375 H&H that was final assembled in Britain.

Charles Daly again imported them after the embargo was lifted, Remington imported them with a laminated wood stock for a few years as the Rem 798, and CAI imported them until recently.

My first was chambered in .243 and my second was chambered in .308 Win, purchased as a barreled action that I put in a B&C stock. Both were sub MOA 5 shot group rifles. The .308 was purchased just after the embargo when it was obvious they were about to dry up in the US market. It had the later cross bolt style floor plate release, rather than the earlier inside the trigger guard release.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:53 AM
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For $20 more OTD my Zastava CZ99 Precision is twice to three times the rifle as the Escort. I keep looking for a deal on another.
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