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This thread is an attempt to capture most of the pages from the beloved Damguy site that we have relied on for many years. Many of the pictures on the site are hosted on another site that is no longer working and would not be recoverable without legal intervention. Although the information contained herein began as a direct copy and paste from both sites, it is not intended to replace the site. More of a back up in the event it were to go down. I know much work has gone in to creating such a site and it would be a shame to lose all of the data and pictures. In the event errors are identified, I will go back and make corrections.

Not all of the pictures have been recovered. I tried to note those instances. So, if anyone has them on their local PC, please feel free to send them my way (jbrentd953 at gmail dot com) and I will make every attempt to add them.
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A Brief History of the Early Years

Iver, Oscar & Harold

Oscar F. Mossberg, a native of Sweden, came to the United States in 1886. Soon after his arrival he joined with the Iver Johnson Corporation in the bicycle plant. Fortunately his interests lied more in the firearms side of the plant and his unique development of the "Hammer the Hammer" action that made Iver Johnson revolvers famous.

After a few years Mossberg left Iver Johnson for a job as Superintendent of the Shattuck Arms Company, maker of fine palm pistols, revolvers and shotguns.

In 1900 he signed on with the Stevens Arms Corporation and stayed there for the next 14 years.

In 1914 he joined the newly founded Marlin-Rockwell Corporation in the manufacture and development of light machine guns. He stayed until the company went belly up in 1919.

In 1919 with the partnership of his two sons Iver and Harold, O.F. Mossberg and Sons was born. The motto of O.F. Mossberg and Sons has always been to put out a quality product at an affordable price. In their infancy that rule always applied. The profit margin was only pennies but the product was so good that the company grew in leaps and bounds.

Mossberg was a firearm innovator and had many firsts...
  • First to produce a man sized rifle for an affordable price.
  • First to offer a complete rifle and telescopic rifle sight package for one price.
  • First to offer a rifle with all the necessary accessories, sling, swivels, peep sights, telescopic sight, etc.
  • First to drop the military finger grooved forearm styling.
  • First to produce a spotting scope with stand at an affordable price.
  • First to produce a range finding telescopic sight.

In 1937 the world lost a great innovator but Oscars sons continued to follow their fathers philosophy and produce reasonably priced quality firearms and accessories for years to come.
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Excerpts from a letter dated 1954 on rifling of Mossberg 22 lr rifles.

STANDARD .22 CALIBER BARREL SPECIFICATIONS ON MODELS PRIOR TO 1951
"The lead was right hand, and all were made with a twist of one revolution in 16". The grooves 0.084, lands 0.086 wide and 0.0025 deep, plus or minus 0.0002. The rifling concentric with the bore. The bore 0.217 plus or minus, 0.0005. Made with four or five grooves."
SPECIFICATIONS FOR BARRELS SINCE OCTOBER 1951
"Lead, one turn in 16" right hand. Grooves, eight. Diameter to top of rifling 0.2225 - 0.0005. width of land 0.045 - 0.046. Width of Groove 0.045 - 0.046."

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Mossberg 22 Rimfire Models & Specifications - The Letter Models

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Model B Bolt action single shot rifle.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 22" barrel. Plain pistol grip stock, birch with walnut finish. Ivory bead front sight, open rear, adjustable for elevation only. Made 1930-1932.

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Exploded View 1 Piece Bolt Special thanks to Mosscoll for the Photo's.


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Model C Bolt action single shot rifle.




  • Single shot bolt action rifle. Made 1931-1932

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Model K slide action repeater.


  • Hammerless, takedown, 22 lr,l,s, tubular magazine, holds (14)lr, (16)l, (20)s. 22" barrel. Weight 5 lbs. Plain straight grip walnut stock, grooved slide handle. Ivory bead front sight, model K rear sight. Made 1922-1931.

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Model L single shot rifle.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 24" barrel. Weight 5 lbs. Martini type falling block lever action. Plain pistol grip walnut stock and semi-beaver tail forearm, case hardened butt plate. Ivory bead front sight, model L rear sight. Made 1929-1932.

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Model M slide action repeater.

  • Hammerless, takedown, 22 lr,l,s, tubular magazine, holds (14)lr, (16)l, (20)s. 24" octagonal barrel. Weight 5.5 lbs. Pistol grip walnut stock, grooved slide handle. Ivory bead front sight, model L rear sight. Made 1928-1931.

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See Above (Model K)

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Model R bolt action repeater.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s, tubular magazine. 24" barrel. Plain pistol grip walnut stock. Ivory bead front sight, model L rear sight. Last model with "Letter" designation, switched to "Number" designation in 1933. Made 1930-1932.

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Model S slide action repeater.


  • Hammerless, takedown, 22 lr,l,s, tubular magazine. 19.75" barrel. Weight 5 lbs. Plain straight grip walnut stock, grooved slide handle. Ivory bead front sight, model K rear sight. Made 1927-1931.
  • One recently sold on GunBroker (7/1/07) for $1380.00


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Mossberg 22 Rimfire Models & Specifications – Models 10 through 34

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Model 10 Bolt action single shot rifle.

  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 22" barrel. Weight 4 lbs. Plain pistol grip beech or birch, walnut finished stock with finger grooves and swivels and 5/8" sling. No. 133 gold bead front sight, No. 2 rear sight. Made 1933-1935.

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Model 14 bolt action single shot rifle.



  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 24" barrel. Weight 5.25 lbs. Plain pistol grip birch walnut finished stock with semi beaver tail forearm made to NRA specifications, sling and 1.25" swivels. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1934-1935.

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See Above (Model 10)

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Model 20 bolt action single shot rifle.




  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 24" barrel. Weight 4.5 lbs. Plain pistol grip beech or birch walnut finished stock with finger grooves made to NRA specifications, 7/8" sling and swivels. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. 133 gold bead front sight, No. 2 rear sight. Made 1933-1935.

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Model 21 bolt action single shot rifle.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 24" barrel. Weight 4.5 lbs. Plain pistol grip beech or birch walnut finished stock with finger grooves made to NRA specifications, 7/8" sling and swivels. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. 133 gold bead front sight, No. 2 rear sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1933-1935.

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Model 25/25A bolt action single shot rifle.


[LIST][*]Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 24" barrel. Weight 5 lbs. Plain pistol grip beech with walnut finish stock with semi beavertail forearm. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 2 rear sight and a No. 3 receiver sight. 1.25" swivels.[*]Model 25 made 1935-1936

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[*]Model 25A (drilled and tapped for scope) made 1936-1938

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See Above (Model 10)

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Model 26B/26C bolt action single shot rifle.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. (26B) 26" barrel, (26C) 24" barrel. Weight 5.5 lbs. Plain pistol grip birch walnut finished stock, 1.25"swivels (26C no swivels). (26B) No. S106 ramp front sight, No. S102 rear sight, No. 4 receiver sight. (26C) No. 1A ramp front sight, No. S102 rear sight.
  • Model 26B, 26C made 1938-1941.

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General Instructions
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Model 30 bolt action single shot rifle.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 24" barrel. Weight 4.5 lbs. Plain pistol grip beech or birch walnut finished stock, forearm with finger grooves made to NRA specifications. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1933-1935.

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Model 34 bolt action single shot rifle.

  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s. 24" barrel. Weight 5.5 lbs. Plain pistol grip birch with walnut finish stock with semi beavertail forearm made to NRA specifications. 1.25" swivels. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1934-1935.

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See Above (Model 30)


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Mossberg 22 Rimfire Models & Specifications – Models 35 through 40


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Model 35 Target grade bolt action single shot rifle.




  • 22 lr. 26" 13/16" diameter heavy barrel. Weight 8.25 lbs. Large walnut target stock with full pistol grip, cheekpiece, full beavertail forearm made to NRA specifications, 1.25" swivels. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 4 receiver sight, and a Lyman No. 17 front globe sight was available as an option. Made 1935-1937.

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Model 35A/35A-LS bolt action single shot rifle.

  • 22 lr. 26" heavy barrel. Weight 8.25 lbs. Walnut oil finished target stock with cheekpiece, full pistol grip and extra long beavertail forearm, 1.25" swivels. (35A) No. S106 ramp front sight, No. 4 receiver sight, with No. 4A four aperture eyepiece. (35A-LS) Lyman 17A front sight, Lyman No. 57M receiver sight. Made 1937-1938.

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Model 35B bolt action single shot target rifle.


  • 22 lr. 26" heavy barrel. Weight 8.5 lbs. Walnut oil finished pistol grip target stock with cheek piece, 1.25" swivels, 4 position adjustable front swivel. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. S102 rear sight, No. 4 receiver sight. Made 1938-1940.

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Model 40 bolt action repeater.




  • Takedown, 22 lr, tubular magazine, holds 16 lr. 24" barrel. Weight 5 lbs. Plain pistol grip walnut stock, forearm with finger grooves made to NRA specifications. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1933-1935.

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Mossberg 22 Rimfire Models & Specifications – Models 42 through 43

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Model 42 bolt action repeater.

  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s, 7-shot detachable box magazine. 24" barrel. Weight 5 lbs. Pistol grip stock made to NRA specifications, 1.25" swivels. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. S134 rear sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1935-1937.

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Model 42A/L42A bolt action repeaters.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s, 8-shot detachable box magazine. 24" barrel. Weight 5 lbs. Plain pistol grip birch walnut finished stock made to NRA specifications, 1.25" swivels. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 2 rear sight, No. 3 receiver sight, (No. 3 left hand on L42A). (42A) made 1937-1938. (L42A) made 1937-1938.

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Model 42B/42C bolt action repeaters.


  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s, 5-shot detachable box magazine. 24" barrel. Weight 6 lbs. Plain pistol grip birch walnut finished stock, 1.5" swivels (42C no swivels). Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. No. S106 ramp front sight, No. S102 rear sight, No. 4 receiver sight (42C no No. 4). Made 1938-1941.

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General Instructions
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Model 42M bolt action repeater.


  • 22 lr,l,s, 7-shot detachable box magazine. 23" barrel. Weight 6.75 lbs. Two-piece Mannlicher type stock with cheekpiece and pistol grip, swivels. No. S106 ramp front sight, No. S102 rear sight, No. 4 receiver sight. Made 1940-1944.
  • Model 42M(a) Change in extractors, made 1944-1945.
  • Model 42M(b) S100 sight replaced No.4, made 1945-1947.
  • Model 42M(c) S130 sight replaced S100, S107 replaced S102, made 1947-1950.

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General Instructions
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Model 43/L43 bolt action repeaters.



  • Speedlock adjustable trigger pull. 22 lr, 7-shot detachable box magazine. 26" 13/16" diameter heavy barrel. Weight 8.25 lbs. Walnut oil finished target stock with cheekpiece, full pistol grip, beavertail forearm, 4 position adjustable front swivel, 1.25" quick detachable swivels. Adjustable trigger 2.5 to 5 pounds. (L43) same specifications as model 43 with exception of left handed action. (43) No. S106 ramp front sight or Lyman No. 17A globe front sight, Lyman No. 57M receiver sight. (L43) No. S106 ramp front sight or Lyman no. 17A globe front sight, Lyman No. 57M receiver sight on a special left handed base. Made 1937-1938.

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Model 43B bolt action target rifle.

  • 22 lr, 7-shot detachable box magazine. 26" heavy barrel. Weight 8 lbs. Walnut oil finished target stock with full pistol grip, cheekpiece, beavertail forearm, 4 position adjustable front swivel. Lyman no. 17A globe front sight, Lyman No. 57M receiver sight. Made 1938-1939.

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Mossberg 22 Rimfire Models & Specifications – Models 44 through 45

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Model 44 bolt action repeater.



  • Takedown, 22 lr, tubular magazine holds 16 lr. 24" barrel. Weight 6 lbs. Plain pistol grip stock with semi beavertail forearm, 1.25" swivels. No. 1A Ramp front sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1934-1935.

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Model 44B bolt action target rifle.


  • 22 lr, 7-shot detachable box magazine. 26" heavy barrel. Weight 8 lbs. Walnut oil finished target stock with full pistol grip, cheekpiece, beavertail forearm, 4 position adjustable front swivel. No S106 ramp front sight, No. 4 receiver sight. Made 1938-1941.

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Model 44US bolt action repeater.


  • 22 lr, 7-shot detachable box magazine. 26" heavy barrel. Weight 8.5 lbs. Target stock, swivels. No. S106 ramp front sight, No. S100 receiver sight. Made 1943-1945.
  • Model 44US(a) adjustable trigger pull added, made 1944-1946.
  • Model 44US(b) change mad in extractors, made 1946-1947.
  • Model 44US(c) S130 sight replaced S100, made 1947-1948.
  • Model 44US(d) new front swivel, 3 position, made 1948-1949.

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**FOUND**Disassembly/Assembly of Mossberg 44US
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Model 45 Bolt action repeater.

  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s, tubular magazine holds 15(lr), 18(l), 22(s). 24" barrel. Weight 6.75lbs. Plain pistol grip beech or birch walnut finished stock, 1.25" swivels. No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 3 receiver sight. Made 1935-1937.

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Model 45A/S45A/L45AC/45AC bolt action repeaters.






  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s, tubular magazine holds 15(lr), 18(l), 22(s). 24" barrel. Weight 6.75 lbs. Plain pistol grip birch walnut finished stock, 1.25" swivels. (45A) No. 1A front ramp sight, No. 2 rear sight, No. 3 receiver sight. (L45AC) No. 1A ramp front sight, No. 2 rear sight, left hand No. 3 receiver sight, (45AC) No. S138 front sight, No. 2 rear sight. Made 1937-1938.

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Model 45B/45C Bolt action repeaters.




  • Takedown, 22 lr,l,s, tubular magazine, 15(lr), 18(l), 22(s). 24" barrel. Weight 6.25 lbs. Plain pistol grip beech or birch walnut finished stock, 1.25" swivels. Chrome plated bolt, handle and trigger. (45B) No. S106 ramp front sight, No. S100 receiver sight. (45C) No iron sights, scope use only.
  • Model 45B, S102 rear, made 1938-1940.

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  • Model 45C, made 1935-1937.


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Mossberg 22 LR US Property 42M-B Information

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In June 1941 O.F. Mossberg received the first government prime contract for a .22 caliber training rifle. That rifle was the model 42M-B bolt action repeater.






  • 22 s, l, lr, 7 shot detachable boxed magazine. 23" barrel. Weight 6.75 lbs. Plain two-piece birch Mannlicher type stock with walnut finish, pistol grip and quick detachable swivels. No. 4 micro click receiver sight, No. S101 hooded ramp front sight. S102 rear sights were on early production models but discontinued as the military removed them. "United States Property" stamped on barrels and receivers. Most rifles were sent to Britain under the "Lend Lease" program and British Proof Marks abound on these specimens. The 42M-B's were serial numbered 2,501 to 46,000. This was the first time Mossberg used serial numbers since the "Letter" designated rifles. After the war most of the "lend Lease" rifles were returned to the United States and some were returned "Sporterized", with various British so called "improvements". See Micro Click Sights for a Parker Hale example.
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42MB(a) Lend Lease Navy






Hand filed large arrow with the letter "N" next to it designates Navy service.
Crown over initials BNP indicate Birmingham Proof House.
.22LR .610" indicates caliber of rifle.
8 TONS PER rectangle symbol indicates Nitro Proof.
Crossed flags separated by 3 letters indicates date stamp.
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42MB Lend Lease with Sentencing Marks


  • A question was asked as to the reason for the paint daubs, here is the answer: The daubs are sentencing marks indicating that it was examined and found wanting for something but it was good enough to store pending repair. It could be as simple as a missing sight or it does not have the latest upgrade. The Mossberg's were factory rebuilt in 1948 and fitted with Parker Hale rear sights. Yours may have been scheduled for the upgrade and was surplused out before it could be done. Rifles having been updated to the post war specification have the wartime code for the upgrade company and year date stamped on the receiver ring. They wanted a receiver sight as the .22s were to duplicate the sighting setup on the No.4 rifle. Thanks Mossberman for the photo's and information.
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42M-B Production Numbers, Dates and Contract Numbers
Date-------------Contract Number--------Quantity-------Unit Price-------Serial Number
06/30/1941--------DAW-478-ORD-9--------10,000-----------$10.00----------2501-10000
06/12/1941*-------DAW-478-ORD-187-----8,000------------$12.00----------10001-18000
03/27/1942--------DAW-478-ORD-439------20,000----------$13.49----------18001-18001A & 18002-37999
06/22/1942--------DAW-478-ORD-531------Parts------------$4,258.00
01/01/1943**-----W-478-ORD-3077--------5,000-----------$13.49-----------38001-43000
03/01/1943**-----W-478-ORD-3239--------3,000-----------$13.49-----------43001-46000

*Contract delayed while rifles were serial numbered.
**Some rifles were stamped 42M-B(a) due to an extractor change.
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Note: Same great content, but I re-organized a little bit…
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Mossberg 44US Commercial - SEEN ONE, SEEN ‘EM ALL…
By: Rich Gardner
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To read the history of the 44US you’d think Mossberg changed an extractor here and a peep-sight there but basically the (a) through (d) models were all the same. You may be surprised how different they are.

I’m assuming the examples shown here are typical of each model. Please ignore late-model scopes and the lack of some peripheral pieces. Let’s focus on the rifles.

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All 4 Commercial Models Together…


From top to bottom: 44US(a); (b); (c); (d).

It is not an optical illusion these rifles look longer as they get newer. My (a) model has a barrel that is almost an inch shorter than all the others. (No sign of being modified.) Minor variations in the stocks make the (c) a little longer than the (b). The (d) actually locates the receiver farther forward relative to the stock; making it longest overall. Your results may vary and if so, we want to hear from you.

From what I can see, the 44US(a) shares very few parts with any other version. The common parts are the trigger assembly, bolt handle/plunger/spring, firing pin and trigger guard. In theory the (a) version came with S-100 and S-101 sights. The (b) could have been equipped with the S-100 and S-106 combination. Versions (c) and (d) should have come with S-130 and S-106.

The 44US(a) stock; receiver; bolt head; extractors and barrel are not common to any other 44US model. The trigger guard was carried-over to the (b) model but then it too changed. Some sources suggest only the bolt and extractors as being unique to the (a).
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Extractors


44US(a) with machined solid extractors. All others had bent-spring extractors.
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Stocks
The next dramatic observation: Every model had a unique stock.
44US(a) - Square-end trigger guard. Not relieved for shell casing guard.
44US(b) - Relieved for shell casing guard and having square-end trigger guard.
44US(c) - Like (b) but equipped with round-end trigger guard.
44US(d) - Three-position sling swivel mount and hand stop.
Summary of stocks:
44US(a)- Not relieved for dust cover; no provision for adjustable front swivel or hand-stop; slot for trigger guard extends to the bottom of the hand grip.

44US(b)- Relieved for dust cover; otherwise as above, using the same trigger guard.

44US(c)- Like (b) except milled for round-end trigger guard.

44US(d)- Milled for multi-position front swivel and hand-stop; round-end trigger guard. Even though it hints at the changes coming in the 144 series, it still looks like a 44US.
Mossberg had three part numbers for the stocks. (a)= R-195. (d)= R-620, leaving us to ask, “If I order an R-518 stock for my (b) or (c), would it be notched for the square, or round-end trigger guard?” Good luck and report back.

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Trigger Guards


(a) and (b) had square-end trigger guard



(c) and (d) had round-end trigger guard
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Receivers
Here’s the 44US(a) receiver. No slot for mounting the dust cover, nor is the stock relieved to clear it.



Here we see the later design with the dust cover.

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44US(d) shown with 144LSA. (Ignore missing swivels and hand-stop.)
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Hard parts:
  • 44US(a)- R-103 bolt assembly, (using the R-104 bolt; R-113 right extractor and R-114 left extractor,) R-174 receiver, R-195 stock, S-100 receiver sight and S-101 front sight. 25-1/4” barrel with overall length of 42-1/2” Offered 1945-46.
  • 44US(b)- R-427 bolt assembly, (R-423 bolt body,) R-197 receiver, R-518 stock, (maybe,) S-100 sight and S-106. 26” barrel and 43” overall. 1946-47.
  • 44US(c)- Like (b) except for trigger guard and change to S-130 sight. 1947-48
  • 44US(d)- Similar to (c) except R-620 stock with three-position swivel plate, with hand-stop. 1948-49.
  • By the end of 1949 Mossberg had made so many changes to the 44US there were few parts still interchangeable with the military trainer held in high esteem by veterans. It’s likely Mossberg thought they had taken the 44US as far as it could go and it was time to get serious about target rifles. In 1950 they unveiled the 144LS.
  • My first two 44US models were a (d) and an (a). As I studied the two rifles and leafed through the parts catalogs I was surprised how different the two rifles were and how few of those differences were outlined in the literature. More astonishing is that all of these changes occurred between 1945 and 1949.
  • For the collector, restoring one of these rifles means choosing from among 4 stocks; 2 receivers; 2 barrels; 2 bolt heads; 2 sets of extractors; 2 trigger guards and a variety of sights. Be careful about buying replacement parts, especially if the description reads, “Fits all 44US models.”
  • I hope this article inspires the experts to weigh in on the topic.
Special thanks to Rich Gardner for this excellent treatise!!
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1964 Mossberg Catalog Pages

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Mossberg Brownie 22 Pistol

The Mossberg Brownie - Page 1

For Brownie firing pins contact Mosscoll at [email protected]
Am also starting to make some grips
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A LESSON IN BROWNIES
By Jack A. Myers

An informative article about the Mossberg Brownie, written by gun author and Editor of the Standard Catalog of Firearms, Dan Shideler, appeared in the Sept. 23, 2005 issue of Gun Digest Magazine (formerly The Gun List) and got me interested in the unusual little four-shooter. Soon after that I bought my first Brownie at a local gun show. Dan reported Mossberg produced approximately 37,000 of these guns between 1920 and 1932.

Some other sources estimated production at 32,000 from 1919 to 1932. Since that time I've been gathering data on these guns, because no other source had much information available on them. Highest serial number reported so far is just over 33,000. A foreign source reported one with a serial number at almost 94,000! However, based on the more realistic 32,000 reported, there were approximately 5,300 Variation #1s produced; just 3,600 Variation #2s; leaving 26,100 Variation #3s - based on serial numbers reported.

Few details are known about this little pistol because no surviving factory records have ever surfaced, and no one previously has researched them to any extent. Today, O.F. Mossberg & Sons Inc. remains America's largest and oldest family-owned gun-making business. And the Brownie was its "Founding Father." It was the new company's FIRST gun. And, it was the company's ONLY pistol. This gun's financial success enabled Oscar and sons to continue their very popular line of rifles and shotguns over the ensuing years. They've never produced another pistol!

I will not go into detail, but PRIOR to establishing this new company, Oscar had worked in the gun-making trade for others well-known in the gun business, and had even tried his hand at designing and marketing his own little hideaway gun called the Invisible Defender. It is generally believed that this previous marketing experience paved the way for his establishing the new company with his sons as partners.

One of Mossberg's earliest advertisements.



In my opinion this makes the Brownie a very important chapter in the story of American gun making. It is an actual HISTORICAL ARTIFACT, as much so as the early Colt revolvers got Sam Colt started, or Oliver Winchester with his repeating rifles. Each Brownie owner is the current caretaker of an important piece of our history, and the gun should be treated as such.

When I became interested in them and started researching the Brownies in late 2005, although they all LOOKED ALIKE, I soon discovered that not all Brownies are alike. First, I learned there was a Brownie with the wrong patent date, Jan. 27 instead of correct July 27, stamped on the right side of the barrel section. Guns bearing that error date are now a very scarce and desirable collectible. Next, through hanging around the various online gun forums and asking a lot of questions, I learned there was an even earlier Brownie marked PAT.APPL'D.FOR.

I then had THREE VARIATIONS. I asked the Havlins, founders of the National Mossberg Collectors Association (NMCA) if they knew of more, and they too only knew of three variations - and I also asked many Mossberg people on the various web forums. In Chronological order by date the three KNOWN stamping Variations are pictured here. All patent informations are stamped into the right side of the barrels.

Yet today, many sellers still are not aware of the distinctions in different variations of Brownies. However, since starting this project, and with Dave's immense help by publishing my information on his website, and the Havlins publishing my findings in their NMCA newsletters, I've notice more and more online advertisements now assign a "Variation" number to the gun they're offering, and usually provide more info on its historical background. At the beginning of this study I was astonished at the number of professed "Mossberg Collectors" who wrote to say that prior to my first article they were not even aware Mossberg had ever produced a handgun!
I'm still looking to find a FOURTH Variation, but with no luck so far. If there actually is a fourth, he is remaining well hidden. It might be in the midst of the production run of the Variation 3 with the advent of the pin in the right side plate. Until I can obtain more data on these guns, who knows?

All three Variations are chambered for the .22rf long rifle round and appear identical with only very MINOR variations which are not immediately obvious to the casual observer: machining of the flat area on top of the barrels, back near the front "ears" of the Barrel Release Lever may vary slightly. Also, the number of grooves machined into the thumb piece at the rear of the Barrel Release Levers may vary slightly.

One major difference, which is sometimes difficult to spot, is the fact that at some point during the production of the Variation #3 a pin was added to the top center of the right side plate. This does NOT apply to the left side plate. It's believed this was to solidify the alignment of that plate to the frame. However, it makes a MAJOR difference in how one should remove the RIGHT side plate to avoid disfiguring its closely fitted, sharp metal edges. See the WARNING below.

The pinned right side plate is another item I'm having to search hard to learn at what serial number that practice was begun. So far it has only been observed or reported on some of the later Variation #3 guns.
WARNING ABOUT REMOVING METAL SIDE PLATES.
To remove the metal side plates, first remove the grips then remove the screws from the side plates. DO NOT PRY UP ON THE PLATES! Plates are BEVELED into the frame at front. You SLIDE them to the rear. On the Variation #3 there is a pin at top center. You must remove the screw, gently lift the rear of the plate until it clears the pin, THEN slide it to the rear. Any other handling may cause irreparable damage to the sharp metal edges of the plates and frame.

Also, on the very earliest of the Variation #1 pistols SOME do not have the muzzle of each barrel chamfered. Photo below. I'm now attempting to learn the earliest reported serial number where this is first observed.
The Brownie exploded view with parts list numbers can be found in the American Rifleman archives. However at this writing they are updating their website and the Brownie is not yet available. Those archives are at www.americanrifleman.org Meanwhile, I can email you a copy if you let me know.

INTERNAL PARTS, DIFFERENCES IN VARIATIONS.
In the variations I've observed there were few major internal differences. On Variation #2 and #3 the Striker Arm is slimmed down from the Variation #1, and they have a smaller milled block at the base for the Striker Arm Spring.
The Barrel Release Lever Spring is completely different on each variation. NOTE: the exploded view drawing (when available) on the American Rifleman Archives website which shows a Variation #2. There may be other minor variations we've not yet explored.




BROWNIE BUYING/COLLECTING GUIDE.
Like all older guns, overall condition is of major importance when determining the value of a Brownie. The original bluing should be in good shape with VERY little pitting or wear apparent. There are no KNOWN offerings of any other finish from the factory. If the gun is plated or engraved, that is an after-market addition, NOT factory original.

The factory furnished grips were very thin walnut with ridges completely across their width from top to bottom. Any other type of grips found on a Brownie is an after-market addition.

Many Brownies are found without original grips and/or the little Extractor Rod which slides down into the small rectangular well on top left side of the gun. Both items are currently being reproduced by men who are artisans of their crafts. I've bought from them and can vouch for their work.

There are no other known makers of reproduction parts except the gent who produces the beautiful grips also makes firing pins. One large parts supplier also has the firing pins available. However, if you need other parts your best bet is to contact another Brownie owner to see if you can borrow an original part and have a gunsmith or machinist reproduce it. Having an original part to use for a pattern can usually save you some money.

I know of several owners who have made their own parts, but none have expressed an interest in supplying parts for other Brownie owners.

VALUE OF YOUR SPECIFIC GUN.
Each week I have 2 or 3 owners write to ask the value of their gun. Even with good photos it's difficult to put a price on them, and I would rather not set a dollar amount. Like my old pappy once said, "Never put a price on another man's horse. You might insult him and get shot for your trouble." Your best bet is to check the online gun auctions and see what they are selling for in a condition similar to your gun. You can also get an idea of how many are available at any given time.

SCARCITY OF VARIATIONS.
One thing I can advise you on, according to my research, is the scarcity of the different Variations. Most scarce is the Variation #2 with the wrong patent date on it. Second most scarce is the Variation #1 which had the Patent Applied For message. And lastly, the Variation #3 were the latest ones made, and the most volume, more than twice as many as the Variation #1.

FINDING SERIAL NUMBERS:
There are only six places observed where serial numbers were stamped by the Mossberg shop. These are pictured below for the Variation #1. NOTE that usually only the last 3 or 4 digits of a longer serial number were found on the Barrel Release Lever, andon the Barrel Section down near the hinge when the gun is open (circles 3 and 2 in photo). The later Variations #2 and #3 may or may not have the numbers stamped inside the metal side plates, and the FULL serial number is usually stamped into the bottom of the butt.
(This Image is Too Large to Be Displayed Within the Post. Click Link to View) (960 kB)
DETERMINING YEAR OF MANUFACTURE.
I've come up with a logical formula for establishing a very close estimate as to the YEAR any specific serial number left the factory. Without factory records we have no definite dating available. One day such factory records may turn up. Until that time, if you'll just send me the data regarding your gun I will immediately report back the estimated year your gun left Oscar's shop. I continue to refine and update this formula as more data is sent to me.

The needed database information I would like from you Brownie owners is as follows:
  1. Main serial number and where on grip frame
  2. Whether all numbered parts match
  3. Patent information on right side of barrels
  4. Grips original or no
  5. Extractor Rod still aboard or no
  6. Muzzle of barrels chamfered
  7. Right side metal plate pinned or no
  8. State or Province the gun was found in.
  9. General overall condition for my own curiosity.
  10. Also, if you're offering the gun for sale. I buy broken guns to salvage parts needed by other owners.

FOR THOSE WANTING TO FIRE THEIR BROWNIES.
My advice is DON'T! Brownies should be considered important historical artifacts. This is the Founding Father of the current O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Inc. We, the current owners, are but caretakers of these artifacts for the benefit of future generations. I do NOT shoot my collectibles. I would hate myself forever if I ruined even ONE old gun by firing it. There are too many modern guns available to shoot to take such a chance. If you MUST, be sure to use only lower velocity ammo. This old metal was NOT meant to withstand the pressures some modern rounds generate. Pictured below is a Brownie with its chambers destroyed by just such pressure.

This is a fairly scarce Variation #1, serial number 1124. Remainder of gun is beautiful. What a waste!
UNUSUAL BROWNIES I'VE ENCOUNTERED.
First one was offered at online gun auction. Its ONLY markings were the number 588 stamped into barrel section down near the hinge, and and under the "ears" on the Barrel Release Lever, and the Brownie logo on the left side plate. It was discussed on various forums and is thought to be a "lunchbox gun," carried out of the factory piece by piece in some workman's lunchbox.

Next one I obtained was Serial Number 212, the lowest number reported so far. It was found decades ago by an ex-LEO while hiking in a woods up in Northern Georgia. He cleaned it up and got it operating properly. The left side, which it was laying on, has some light pitting overall, and the grip on that side was missing. The right grip is a home-made one. Release Lever was badly buggered. I'm leaving it just as is. He ran across it in a sock drawer and decided to look up info on it, when he ran across my article. I told him I'd give it a good home if he ever wanted to part with it. He immediately offered it to me for 6 bags of dark chocolate M&Ms plus refund of his postage cost to mail it to me.

PLEASE REMEMBER, none of this foregoing info is "engraved in stone" as the ultimate truth! I can only report according to what information is available to me, and with NO factory info, a LOT of this info is no more than an "educated guess." Hopefully, over time, my efforts will prove to be correct - only time will tell. Meanwhile we can only make do with what we have.

I'm still looking for that FOURTH Variation - IF such a thing exists! Please continue sending me any data on, and photos of, Brownies you own, and if anyone has any questions, I'll be happy to answer to the best of my ability. My email address is: [email protected] I look forward to hearing from you.

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Mossberg Brownie 22 Pistol - Page 2

The Mossberg Brownie – Page 2
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6/17/09 BROWNIE FOURTH VARIATION SURFACES!
To make sure we're all on the same page with the KNOWN Variations of this little gem, I won't rehash all of the Brownie's historical background, but go directly to descriptions for proper identification of each known Variation.

First off, ALL Brownies should be stamped on the left side of the Barrel Cluster: O.F. MOSSBERG & SONS, above, NEW HAVEN,CONN.U.S.A.. (I've tried to duplicate the italicized lettering and letter spacing in all stampings.) The left side metal plate is stamped with a stylized logo word Brownie with little arrows at front and back.
Note that numerical stamping of the serial numbers is often found with mixed sizes of numbers. It would appear they must have had more than one metal stamping set of numerals and little attention was paid to which size was being used. ("Quality Control" evidently didn't matter as much back in those days as it does in today's highly mechanized production lines.)

Since my last article here, another unique Variation has surfaced. It will be described as Variation #2.5 because its characteristics appear to have come about during a transitional period from the incorrect patent date Variation #2, and what we believe is probably the final Variation #3 with the correct patent date.

VARIATION #1:
This earliest gun was stamped on the right side of the barrel cluster, PAT.APPL'D.FOR with no spaces between the letters. Serial numbers are typically found in five places: 1) on the edge of the grip frame, at bottom, under the right grip; 2) on barrel cluster down near hinge on right side; 3) under the "ears" on the front of the Barrel Latch lever which lays down the top of the gun; and, 4) and 5) on the back of BOTH metal side plates. Some earlier guns also have the last few digits of the serial number marked in pencil on the back of the walnut grips. Guesstimated years of production: 1919 to 1923. Guesstimated production number: 9,920 units.
VARIATION #2:
It was evidently discovered late in production that the incorrect month was used when they began stamping the patent info on the right side of the barrel cluster. These guns are stamped PAT'D.JAN.27,1920. Serial number locations are the same as the Variation #1 as described above. Guesstimated years of production: approximately 9 months in 1923. Guesstimated production number: 1,700 units.
NEW! VARIATION #2.5:
Only THREE specimens observed at this point in time. These guns are stamped PAT. JULY 27 1920. Major points of identification are the fact that there is NO ALIGNMENT PIN at top center of the right side metal plate; and there is NO SERIAL NUMBER stamped on the bottom of the butt. Finally all serial numbers are found in the same locations as indicated in Variation #1 and #2. At this early stage of discovery, the years of production are still a mystery. Guesstimated production number: 275 units.
VARIATION #3:
This one is the latest known Variation and had the longest production run, therefore, had the largest number of units produced. This is the most commonly found specimen. Stamped on right side of the barrel cluster is PAT. JULY 27 1920. The serial number stampings now only appear in THREE locations: 1) on the very bottom of the butt; 2) on the right side of the barrel cluster, down near the hinge; and, 3) under the "ears" of the Barrel Latch lever. Guesstimated years of production: 1923 to 1932. Guesstimated production number: 20,000 units.


PLEASE REMEMBER, none of these figures are "engraved in stone." All are strictly anyone's guess as there are NO KNOWN SURVIVING FACTORY RECORDS. My guesstimates are based on what has been learned from surviving specimens reported to me by owners, and/or observed by me.

When evaluating any individual Brownie, please keep in mind that other than its overall condition, the importance of ALL its serial numbered parts having matching numbers! The COMPLETE serial number, when more than FOUR numerals, is usually ONLY found stamped on the frame AND on back of the metal side plates. JUST THE LAST FEW DIGITS of the serial number may be stamped on the parts with smaller space available. Also, at this point we can only find evidence of the Brownie being produced with the thin, ridged walnut grips, and only sold with a blued finish. Nickel plating and custom grips MAY have been offered by the company at some time, but so far no evidence of this has been uncovered.

Below is a photo of the new Variation #2.5 which shows the July Patent Date; the lack of an alignment pin at top center of the right side metal plate; and NO number stamped on the bottom of its butt. The rest of the evidence to its identification is all hidden inside...

If you have any questions about these guns I'll be happy to get an answer for you. And, If YOU have any information you're willing to share about your Brownie, I would greatly appreciate your input. You can email me at [email protected] and thank you in advance for any info.
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