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Oh dear. What's above and beyond toxic masculinity? Malignant masculinity?

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Old 06-13-2021, 07:37 PM
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Oh dear. What's above and beyond toxic masculinity? Malignant masculinity?
Metrosexuality?
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Old 06-14-2021, 12:51 PM
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Lots of wimmen died in Next Generation, DS9, and Voyager.
After my time. Can't recall any that Shatner loved and lost.

Thank you for the correction.
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Old 06-14-2021, 12:54 PM
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Oh dear. What's above and beyond toxic masculinity? Malignant masculinity?

Benevolent masculinity and being the "white knight" is the ruin of many men these days.
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A better book to read on this subject is "Surviving The Myth of Masculine Privilege"....
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Old 06-14-2021, 03:43 PM
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A better book to read on this subject is "Surviving The Myth of Masculine Privilege"....
Dr. Goldberg argued that men were in harness, conditioned by parents and society and often encouraged by women into such conflicting roles as aggressive businessman + compassionate husband; stressed-out breadwinner + attentive father; brave protector of family and country + sensitive male with a capacity for intimacy. Such impossible binds often crippled him both emotionally and physically and shortened his lifespan.

Introducing themes that have since become commonplace in discussions of masculinity, Dr. Herb Goldberg was the first to explain that...
Men use women as sex objects, but women use men as success objects;
Impotence is more likely an indicator of a man s emotional duress, rather than a physical malfunction;
Monogamy and marriage place unnatural binds upon the male which tend to keep him in a perpetually guilty state;
Women actually possess far greater flexibility than men in assertiveness, sexuality, clothing styles, career and family choices;
Playing the role of 'nice guy' leads to frustration and dehumanization;
Violence against men is far more prevalent than against women;
The more he works to support his family, the more a man tends to become alienated from them;
Because he traditionally assumed the active role, the man could be blamed as the heavy, the victimizer, and the destroyer;
The restrictive conditioning of young boys leads to the suppression of their emotions;
Divorce brings out a man s dependency and can be ruinous to his life.

Even after thirty years as an international best-seller, the brilliance of Dr. Goldberg s work remains undimmed. His insights are still relevant to men navigating the rocky road of relationships, marriage, and divorce and who are still struggling to define manhood in the post-feminist age.
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This is getting too deep.

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Old 06-14-2021, 05:45 PM
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Lots of wimmen died in Next Generation, DS9, and Voyager.
Well it's about time.
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This is getting too deep.
Never fear. A woman will be along to throw you a rope shortly.
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Old 06-14-2021, 07:21 PM
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Munchausen Syndrome is an attention-seeking personality disorder which is more common than statistics suggest. Munchausen Syndrome is a predominantly female disorder in which an emotionally immature person with narcissistic tendencies, low self-esteem and a fragile ego has an overwhelming need to draw attention to herself and to be the centre of attention.
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Old 06-14-2021, 07:39 PM
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...I think I live with one of ^^^those^^^?

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Old 06-14-2021, 08:10 PM
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boils down to,
Awareness/shelf life/


"A man has got to know his limitations"
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Old 06-14-2021, 08:55 PM
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Munchausen Syndrome is an attention-seeking personality disorder which is more common than statistics suggest. Munchausen Syndrome is a predominantly female disorder in which an emotionally immature person with narcissistic tendencies, low self-esteem and a fragile ego has an overwhelming need to draw attention to herself and to be the centre of attention.
big words for drama queen
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Old 06-15-2021, 02:16 AM
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I've known about as many women as men and overall IME, the average woman is as intelligent, educated, skilled, pleasant to interact and work with as the average man.

What irks me is when people claim that there is little significant difference between us apart from appearance and plumbing. It's obviously not true but no historical, scientific or other observable evidence seems to be able to make a dent in the "feelings" that a large percentage of folks (both men and women) cling to today.
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