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Old 09-13-2019, 08:03 AM
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Early season: CZ 452 American w/ Nikon 3-9x40 EFR Rimfire

Late season: CZ 457 Varmint w/ Leupold 6-18x40 VX2 CDS AO

Early season shots are 50 yards and under. Late season they tend to be closer to 75 to 100 yards.
I am curious. Does the 457 with the more potent optic shoot measurably better than the 452 with the 3-9? I ask because I have some rimfires with 6-24x optics mounted but find them difficult to hunt with because of the reduced field of view. Even when I go PD hunting out west and am using a varmit rifle with a 8-32x scope, I almost always kept it set at 8x so I could maintain my field of view and call my own shots. The rifle really does not know which scope it is fitted with so it is really only a tool to aid the shooter in more precise aiming. I have found that in the field (not the tgt range) the value of a high powered optic is very limited and other techniques like using available rest, or shooting sticks can make as much or more difference than dialing my scope from 3 or 4x to 12 or 18x. So a very clear 9x scope may out perform a cheap, less optically clear 18x scope.

At the range I make a habit of dialing the scope up to the max for target shooting because the bullseye is not moving and this aids me in precise repeatable aiming. But if it is a hunting rifle, when I am done, I always dial it back down to the min and shoot some at practical distances to get the feel for its practical field accuracy. The groups always get larger but it is remarkable how little difference this makes if you take your time and aim from a steady rest. I have also shot from the hood of my truck on a windy day using sand bags and been amazed at how poorly my target range tack driver was performing that day.

Final thought. When it is late season and the ranges open up, that can be a good time to drag out the 17 cal rifles. Their flatter ballistics can turn an iffy 80y shot into a confident chip shot regardless of the optic involved.

Just my 2 cents. Would like to know your thoughts. I do understand that any excuse to justify owning another rifle is a good one and if that is it, more power too you.

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Old 09-13-2019, 12:34 PM
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Unless it wears International/3-P/Prone type sights, or a 36X Benchrest scope, it gets hunted with, regardless of weight/balance.
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Old 09-13-2019, 05:16 PM
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Irish... The big advantage I find with a 12X or 16X over a 9X is the ability to more closely glass a tree that I know a sneaky little rodent is hiding on. After I find them hiding, I will back off the magnification to actually take the shot.
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I have three and all are dedicated squirrel hunting rifles

Ruger 77/22 VBZ 22LR- Leupold VX3 6.5 x 20

Ruger 10/22 Target- Leupold VX Freedom Rimfire MOA 3x9

Savage Mark II FV 17HM2- Leupold VX Freedom Rimfire MOA 2x7
I almost forgot I also carry a S&W Model 617 four inch barrel 22LR in a Bianchi leather hip holster. I use it for the close shots.
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Old 09-13-2019, 06:28 PM
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I've been using my 22Mag with a Nikon 3x9/40, but I'm excited to take out my 552 as my dedicated squirrel rifle again this season. I only had it out once last year and didn't see a thing. I'm also going to keep it irons only. Should be fun.
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All of my rimfires are dedicated squirrel rifles.
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:44 PM
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Irish... The big advantage I find with a 12X or 16X over a 9X is the ability to more closely glass a tree that I know a sneaky little rodent is hiding on. After I find them hiding, I will back off the magnification to actually take the shot.
I don't disagree. Most of my best sql-rifles are topped with either a 3-12x or 4-16x scope. I only own two 3-9x scopes and both are on top of deer rifles. But if I was hunting deer out west I would likely move to a 3-12x or more. Still, in the field I am rarely dialing up the magnification much. I have a 4-16x on one rifle that is so clear that at 4x it is plenty to find and id the lil furry tgts tucked into the forks of the trees. Last time I dialed it higher was early season when all I could see was the tail of one at 80y and I wanted to place a shot a couple inches forward of the base of the tail. Even then I only dialed to about 8x. That was with a Zeiss 3-12x variable. That was a 17 mach2 and it bagged the squack.
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All my rimfires are small game and varmint rifles. I'll be hunting with a 22LR Volquartsen Deluxe this winter. That includes tree squirrels.

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Cooper Jackson Squirrel in 22 with a Weaver Classic Extreme, 4-16x50 shooting Eley SSHP's, Annie 1710 D KL, 22 (old model wing safety) with an old Osprey 10-40x50 shooting Lapua Center-x , NEF 17 HMR in the heavy barrel model, with a Muller , and of course a 10/22 LVT with a Kidd trigger and some bolt work with a Muller scope and SK rifle ammo.

I really want to build a somewhat light 17 Mach II single shot. Going to a gun show this weekend looking for a donor. Perhaps an old Stevens target gun or a Low Wall..... wish me luck....

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Old 09-21-2019, 05:21 AM
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All of. my rifles, various models and actions, are for squirrels even though only three have been used for squirrel so far; Cooper Custom Classic, Anschutz 1712, and Tikka 1x.

Except for the first squirrel I ever killed, about 55 years ago (.410) and a couple with PCP Air Rifles, I've used a .22LR (mostly) or a 17HMR bolt action rifle.

In a couple more weeks I'm going have a Vudoo Raven for the woods as well.

My Japan-repro of the Winchester 63 semi-auto will, I think, be very fun to hunt with. It is such a beauty, graceful, and very solid feeling.
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Cooper Jackson Squirrel in 22 with a Weaver Classic Extreme, 4-16x50 shooting Eley SSHP's, Annie 1710 D KL, 22 (old model wing safety) with an old Osprey 10-40x50 shooting Lapua Center-x , NEF 17 HMR in the heavy barrel model, with a Muller , and of course a 10/22 LVT with a Kidd trigger and some bolt work with a Muller scope and SK rifle ammo.

I really want to build a somewhat light 17 Mach II single shot. Going to a gun show this weekend looking for a donor. Perhaps an old Stevens target gun or a Low Wall..... wish me luck....

Just some thoughts.
Hope you find something to build the Mach II. If you do show us some before and after pictures.
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Hope you find something to build the Mach II. If you do show us some before and after pictures.
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I will do that..... or tell ya all that I could not get it done.
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Just about every 22LR I own has been used for squirrels at one time or another, but my favorite two squirrel rifles are...
1. Marlin 880 SQ with a cheap Simmons 3-9X that I can't even remember the model of (but it does stay zeroed).
2. CZ 452 American 16" with a Burris Fullfield E1 3-9x40.
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Old 09-23-2019, 08:19 AM
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Like others, all mine are set up to smack rats or other vermin.

My early season shooter is a 452 American 22LR. With a Luey 2-7x28mm VX1. It is also fitted with a 1" brown Montana sling and is sighted in at 30m with RWS SSHP

When the leaves are down. I pull out the 452 American in Mach2. It sports a Luey 4-12x40mm AO. It is fitted with a 1.25" brown Montana sling and is sighted in at 50m with Eley.

I also carry a couple of spare mags, amongst other things.
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Cooper Jackson Squirrel in 22 with a Weaver Classic Extreme, 4-16x50 shooting Eley SSHP's, Annie 1710 D KL, 22 (old model wing safety) with an old Osprey 10-40x50 shooting Lapua Center-x , NEF 17 HMR in the heavy barrel model, with a Muller , and of course a 10/22 LVT with a Kidd trigger and some bolt work with a Muller scope and SK rifle ammo.

I really want to build a somewhat light 17 Mach II single shot. Going to a gun show this weekend looking for a donor. Perhaps an old Stevens target gun or a Low Wall..... wish me luck....

Just some thoughts.
Hey Bruce,
Did you find anything at the gun show to start your MachII with? Just thinking out loud....
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