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Old 12-05-2004, 07:46 AM
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So you want a 504 and a 77/rimfire in LH?



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I do, the 77/ cause its so easy to put a different bbl on it. The Remmy
504 appears just as easy to replace the bbl.

Remington touts itself as the premier and oldest manufacturer
that caters to leftys. with the demise of the the 581 and the 788 all thats left is the 700 hardly a rimfire.other than 597, 552 572 no bolt LH
My last e-mail was a dismal failure they said NO. I wonder how many e-mails or letters to each would do the trick.

So what are we gonna do about it?

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Old 12-05-2004, 10:48 AM
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A left handed version of the 77/... is a real pipe dream. It will never happen until you can convince Ruger to completely re-tool and redesign their magazines with reworking the internals to be completely opposite of what they are now and besides the primary ejector is built into the magazine.
The only other alternative would be a left bolt, right eject.
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:56 AM
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aH ! the best of both worlds. What lefty wouldn't want a left bolt and right port just like my 581L

thats the way to go.

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Old 12-05-2004, 06:14 PM
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I second that. The perfect gun!
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Old 12-05-2004, 06:23 PM
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581l

I love mine that way. Work the bolt with the left hand and load with the right(with the single shot adapter!).


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Old 12-05-2004, 07:51 PM
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Well, I am dreamin big. I would like a mirror image 77/22. A true lefty.
And I know for sure, if we don't ask, it won't be made.
If nothing comes out of it, it is no less than what I have now. Except I may have to get that Cooper one day, and I probably wouldn't if I had a 77/22 or 17 in this case to work with.
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Old 12-06-2004, 05:39 AM
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Ol' Man River: Ruger could fairly easily turn out a LH straight-line magazine for a LH 77/22. I don't need 10 shots in a bolt-action rifle, anyway. The costs to have their supplier make it out of plastic might give them pause, though. Machining a mold is expensive, though the volume would be low enough that a second mold would not be required. Alternately, they could strike a deal with Remington to use the 504's magazine (like that's ever gonna happen!) Seriously -- you're right; the magazine problem is the thing that kills any hope of a LH 77/22. I'm pinning my hopes on the CZ 452. I e-mailed them again this weekend.
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Old 12-06-2004, 10:47 AM
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Nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough.
its a matter of economics.
I was about to compromise for the left bolt right port, Mutwagan refuses to .
I respect that. when it comes to rifle mags how many different ones does Ruger make for rifles I count at least 7 different ones, some for rifles that sell
a few examples a year. like 77/44, 99/44, jhx 1 etc. So reversing the mag to function left port ain't no biggie.If they decide to.
Betcha they would sell lots more than the Hornet, or the .44 carbine.

how many left hand 77 CF you figure Ruger makes per year and sells ?
How many left hand 77/ rimfires could they sell?
as I get older I seem to collect more rimfires than CF. I am positively smitten
by Rimfires.

Being the leader in investment casting it be real easy for them to make a
mirror image magazine, as well as a mould for the plastic.

I knew a machine shop in Texas that did that kind of work. he was always busy making injection moulds for the car industy.

Think about it a lefty magazine by ruger,then a 10/22 lefty and a 96 lefty.
If a small machine shop in Texas can make intricate injection moulds so can
Ruger, or can they?

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Old 12-06-2004, 09:06 PM
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Of course Ruger can make LH magazines. They are in the business of making money by making good guns, however, and if they don't think it'll make them a worthwhile profit, they won't do it. The engineering isn't difficult -- I imagine nowadays that one mouse-click will mirror-image a CAD drawing. It's the tooling costs vs. what we lefties are willing to pay.

Savage had a much easier time of it with their LH MkIIs. The receiver looks like just a piece of steel tubing, against a relatively expensive casting for the Ruger 77/22. Same situation with Remington and the M700. The receiver is cut from high-grade drawn steel tube stock -- just reverse the machining, and you have a LH receiver. One of us on this board has to be a production engineer -- whoever you are, you can explain it better than I can.
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:36 PM
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While we are waiting for the production engineer to favor us a layman explanation.

Lets all start writing Ruger for the rifle.

STURM, RUGER & Company, Inc.
Southport, Connecticut 06890 U.S.A.


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Old 12-09-2004, 12:01 PM
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I'm left handed, but personally i wouldn't buy the Ruger even if they "did" make it!!

I just don't like rifles that feel like "beached whales" in my hands!! Especially in a rim fire!!!

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Old 12-09-2004, 01:04 PM
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My 9 year old daughter and myself are both lefties. I just bought her a Savage Left handed MarkII Youth bolt action. I don't have any left handed models, but sure do with I did. I didn't want her to have to put up with the right handed bolts like I have all my life, but wish that she could have gotten a left handed CZ 452 Scout.

I wish CZ made all their 452s in option of left handed bolt.
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:01 PM
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Joeybear,

We are working on it!
Look forward to a left hand CZ for 2005. Don't know exactly what they are planning to put out, but its gonna be a rimfire.


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