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Old 10-09-2016, 08:04 PM
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77/22 vs. CZ 452



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For those who have experience with both the 77/22 and CZ .22's, how do they compare?

I have often been tempted to buy a 77/22, as the walnut stocked models are, to my taste, very nice looking rifles. A CZ 452 looks nice, but I think the Ruger looks even better.

Two things have kept me from buying a 77/22. First is price- they cost almost twice what a CZ goes for. Second, while people seem to brag a lot about the accuracy of CZ rifles, I don't recall very often hearing the same about 77/22's. (Personally, I am skeptical of any claims that a quality firearm from Ruger would not be way more accurate than I am).
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Old 10-09-2016, 08:42 PM
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I have both. The CZ is a better shooting rifle, shooting small groups. The 77/22 has the better magazine. The 455 is the length and weight of the 77/22. The 452 is a couple inches longer. For hunting I would prefer a 77/22 or 455. For bench shooting I would prefer a 452.
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77/22 vs. CZ 452

I don't have a 452 but I do have a 455.
77/22 all weather and two cz455's. Both have their +&-'s. I think in quality they are "at least my example" pretty close but not in all the same places.

Even if I had a 77/22 and a 455 sitting next to each other and they were the same price I would buy the Cz. First...
Both my CZ's are more accurate out of the box than the 77/22.

I would like another 77/22 so for me it would be a hard choice, but for your question....Cz.cz.cz......

The Cz triggers are cheaper to tune than the rugers and after accurizing will for less money out shoot a 77/22. The 455's have changeable barrels as well so I think the CZ's win hands down.

77/22's are soon to be out of production and harder to get so if you really want one "77/22" get one but get some CZ's.

Dollar or for dollar Cz is where it's at.

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I have four 77/22s!
Two are VBZ that shoot well. Other two have Shilen barrels that shoot well!
For the price I'd consider a CZ next purchase.
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Old 10-09-2016, 11:32 PM
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I have both. The CZ is a better shooting rifle, shooting small groups. The 77/22 has the better magazine. The 455 is the length and weight of the 77/22. The 452 is a couple inches longer. For hunting I would prefer a 77/22 or 455. For bench shooting I would prefer a 452.
I agree.

I've had my 77/22 since the second year they came out. It doesn't shoot as well as my CZ 452s or by BRNOs.
Having said that, I wish my CZs had the Ruger magazine. Now that would be a nice combination.
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:04 PM
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The CZ though generally better shooting groups as unmodified. The 77/22 will meet and most likely beat that with some tightening and hand fitting.. using the stock barrel.
Money wise I feel the CZ is a better buy, however, I think the Ruger is a much nicer sporting rifle, at about twice the price.
I do like both rifles very muchly.
Pretty stoked over my heavily molested 77/22 "all stock parts". I successfully put three rounds through a 50BMG hole in a 70s Ford LTD hood at 60 meters!
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:30 PM
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I have both. The CZ is a better shooting rifle, shooting small groups. The 77/22 has the better magazine. The 455 is the length and weight of the 77/22. The 452 is a couple inches longer. For hunting I would prefer a 77/22 or 455. For bench shooting I would prefer a 452.
Very accurate statement. An added plus for me is that the Ruger is available in stainless steel and that the safety works in the "NORMAL MANNER -forward to fire".

With the CZ you pull the safety to the rear to fire. Takes some getting used to.

Both of them lock the bolt in position when the safety is engaged, a definite plus on a hunting rifle.

Replacement mags are much cheaper for the 77/22 and hold 10 rounds flush with the bottom of the stock.

CZ trigger easier to tune.

Iron sights are better on the CZ if you want them. I prefer a plain barrel as all of my 22's are scoped.
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I had my CZ 452 Americans first. They are light, easy to work on and with the right ammo highly accurate. I found a nice 77/22 that had never been shot for $500. Decided to go with Shilen Barrel, did a little trigger work, sent the bolt to CPC and now I have one accurate 77/22. I never shot it with the stock barrel, but I can tell you it would not have performed like this Shilen.

Bite the bullet....and get both
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I had my CZ 452 Americans first. They are light, easy to work on and with the right ammo highly accurate. I found a nice 77/22 that had never been shot for $500. Decided to go with Shilen Barrel, did a little trigger work, sent the bolt to CPC and now I have one accurate 77/22. I never shot it with the stock barrel, but I can tell you it would not have performed like this Shilen.

Bite the bullet....and get both
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and a Cooper!
You would have to put me on the payment plan for a Cooper, and it would never come out the safe to play in the woods.
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The CZ 452/453/455 will be slightly more accurate than a 77/22. I love the looks of the Ruger and the magazine with ten rounds and a flush fit. Of course, the stock is wider to accommodate that magazine, but the 77/22 has a nice feel to it.

Both belong in any serious rimfire collection.
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I have Ruger CFs and lots of CZ rimfires. CZ 452/5 all the way. I have never grabbed a 77/22 because everyone says they need quite a bit of work to get them where a CZ shoots right from the factory. The only thing you really need to touch on the CZ is the trigger spring. So for less than $1.50 you get a great trigger. One of my 455's I haven't even touch the trigger and one of my 452's had a pretty fabulous trigger also.
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]You would have to put me on the payment plan for a Cooper[/B], and it would never come out the safe to play in the woods.

Yeah,me too!
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You would have to put me on the payment plan for a Cooper, and it would never come out the safe to play in the woods.
I would be afraid to take it out and use it.
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I have owned both but sold the boat paddle to get a 452 American while they were still available. I'm very happy with my American, recently cleaning a 50 yd target at our club's rimfire benchrest matches.
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