Remington Model 37 production survey. - Page 5 - RimfireCentral.com Forums

Go Back   RimfireCentral.com Forums > > >

Notices

Join Team RFC to remove these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 01-31-2014, 11:23 AM
L84GLF's Avatar
L84GLF
US Army Veteran NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Apr 2007
Location: 
Keller, TX
Posts: 
887
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)


Log in to see fewer ads
OM58-

Note Ultramags' post on 06581. My 06315 (previously posted) is one month and 266 rifles earlier. Make of it what you will.

To add to BrianJ's note, my 01196 has what appears to be two barrel dates: OF and PK ('37 and '41), located sequentially in the correct place. I have felt (perhaps incorrectly) that since the rifle has the Miracle Trigger, it may have originally left the factory with the early trigger in '37 and returned in '41 for a factory installation of the newer trigger.

Comments welcome.

L84GLF

PS - For completeness, my 02612 has no barrel date code inscribed. ?????

Last edited by L84GLF; 02-01-2014 at 09:02 AM. Reason: s/n typo corrected
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 01-31-2014, 02:16 PM
BlueRidgeParson's Avatar
BlueRidgeParson is online now

Join Date: 
Dec 2011
Location: 
Big Sky Country
Posts: 
1,564
TPC Rating: 
100% (11)
Quote:
Originally Posted by L84GLF View Post

PS - For completeness, my 02612 has no barrel date code inscribed. ?????
My # 01293 also has no date code. I previously posted photos of both sides of the barrel. All other roll marks are complete: just no date code.

BRP
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 01-31-2014, 03:24 PM
Greg Palman
NRA Member - Click Here To Join! Appleseed Rifleman

Join Date: 
Jan 2005
Location: 
Eastern Maine
Posts: 
1,256
TPC Rating: 
100% (1)
L84

Quote:
Originally Posted by L84GLF View Post
OM58-

Note Ultramags' post on 06581. My 06351 (previously posted) is one month and 230 rifles earlier. Make of it what you will.

To add to BrianJ's note, my 01196 has what appears to be two barrel dates: OF and PK ('37 and '41), located sequentially in the correct place. I have felt (perhaps incorrectly) that since the rifle has the Miracle Trigger, it may have originally left the factory with the early trigger in '37 and returned in '41 for a factory installation of the newer trigger.

Comments welcome.

L84GLF

PS - For completeness, my 02612 has no barrel date code inscribed. ?????
a lot of things can be speculated on, but BrianJ's comments should always trump. Speculation shouldn't become fact without irrefutable proof. It is fun to speculate though, I do it, but I have to force myself back to reality. Proof is the key word. Tks for taking the time to compile this info. --Greg
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #64  
Old 01-31-2014, 05:56 PM
Iowabill
US Air Force Veteran

Join Date: 
Feb 2009
Posts: 
298
TPC Rating: 
86% (4)
[QUOTE=L84GLF;4891173]OM58-

Note Ultramags' post on 06581. My 06351 (previously posted) is one month and 230 rifles earlier. Make of it what you will.

As reported earlier mine is 06668 made in Dec 47 and #87 later.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 01-31-2014, 07:25 PM
bigt7mm

Join Date: 
Apr 2005
Location: 
S.C. "Lowcountry"
Posts: 
228
TPC Rating: 
100% (14)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Man 58 View Post
I see. I think it's entirely possible that your rfile and others have been rebarreled at some point wether at the factory by Remington or by a PO. I am going to have to do some more research as I am not familiar with their factory policies regarding reidentifying waranty work to see if perhaps they used any special markings to indicate warranty or after sale rework, perhaps that may provide some light.
Thanks OM58. I was just trying to determine if my rifle may have had the barrel changed at some point or was most likely original. I was getting a little confused with the non-sequential numbers I kept seeing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianJ View Post
Older guns newer numbers.

THEY DO NOT BUILD GUNS IN NUMERICAL ORDER.

Most all manufacturers serial numbered receivers in numerical order and then stored them in bins in no particular order and thats how they were pulled and used, in no particular order, they are used at random. Its possible that receivers could be "lost" in the bins for months or years. As you make and serial number receivers they threw them in the bin and this left early numbers on the bottom of the pile and later on top so to speak. In use you may pull receivers from the top (later numbers) and you work down to the early numbered receivers. They don't rotate stock.
The myth is they followed serial numbers and that just didn't happen. The serial numbers were to identify each receiver and nothing more and have nothing to do with DOM.
This is why the date code came into play. And this is why you can't date rifles or changes by serial number. I doubt warranty work or barrel changes had much to do with odd dating even though each did occur on occasion and those stamps I believe is in the above sticky.

bjm

THIS^ is what I was looking for. Thank you BrianJ.

I know there is probably no way to know if a gun is 100% original, unless one had purchased it new, but this clarifies some of the concerns I had.

Thanks OM58 for all of your time and effort. Great thread and I've learned a lot.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 01-31-2014, 07:49 PM
260remguy

Join Date: 
Mar 2006
Posts: 
464
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
I have two Remington 37s:

0548x - CCS = 04/47
0991x - ??? = ??/??

If anybody is interested, I'd like to sell 0548x.

Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 01-31-2014, 08:10 PM
bigt7mm

Join Date: 
Apr 2005
Location: 
S.C. "Lowcountry"
Posts: 
228
TPC Rating: 
100% (14)
PM sent Jeff.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 01-31-2014, 08:16 PM
ehvhighline
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Mar 2013
Location: 
Ridgeley W.Va.
Posts: 
24
TPC Rating: 
100% (2)
another for your list

Not the last but possibly the first ten percent; ser. no. 01270 date code WF August 1937 All original in pretty good shape considering her age still shoot great; if I where a little more computer saavy , i'd post her picture. this forum is tops !
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 01-31-2014, 08:55 PM
Old Man 58
US Army Veteran NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Mar 2012
Location: 
D/FW - Texas
Posts: 
4,335
TPC Rating: 
100% (4)
Thank you ehvhighline, your info will be added to the list.

260remguy, would you please PM me with the complete serials of your 2 37's? Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 01-31-2014, 08:56 PM
tom in michigan
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Feb 2012
Location: 
marine city, michigan
Posts: 
76
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
I have serial #000747 dated OF which is 7/37.
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 01-31-2014, 08:58 PM
tom in michigan
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Feb 2012
Location: 
marine city, michigan
Posts: 
76
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Serial # is 00747. Got one to many zeros in there.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 01-31-2014, 09:17 PM
Old Man 58
US Army Veteran NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Mar 2012
Location: 
D/FW - Texas
Posts: 
4,335
TPC Rating: 
100% (4)
Quote:
Originally Posted by tom in michigan View Post
Serial # is 00747. Got one to many zeros in there.
Thanks Tom, it's been added to the list.
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 02-01-2014, 08:34 AM
haiha

Join Date: 
Jun 2010
Location: 
Argentina
Posts: 
97
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
I have a Rem 37 No. 04914, manufactured in January 1947. I have no other news in Argentina.
Saludos.
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 02-01-2014, 12:08 PM
Myles
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Mar 2010
Location: 
S.E. Pa.
Posts: 
525
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
I had started to compile a "Survivor File" for the model 37 a while ago, and when I got a job my work kind of got lost by the wayside. I am glad to see this thread really take off. I have found some of my original notes, and I am trying to integrate them with the additional information in this thread.
On the order of serial #'s with date codes that seem out of whack, I remember that John Gyde had told me that he and Roy had come across this before, I believe that Brian has hit the nail on the head, but there is the possibility, [speculation on my part] if the rifle didn't pass quality control, it could have been put aside to be corrected at a time when the factory wasn't so busy.
Smith & Wesson assigns the DOB as the time the firearm is shipped from the factory, I remember Roy Jinks telling of a gun he purchased from the factory that had been in the back of a safe, The gun had been out of production for 50 or 75 years, but the DOM would be current.

On another note of interest, John Gyde had passed on information to me before about extra numbers on the barrel, and multiple date codes.
If there is a number sign by the date code [#]
a # 2 is a parts order barrel
a # 3 means service section received [repaired]
a # 4 means returned to factory
a # 5 denotes an employee sale

multiple date codes: one is original the other should have a # nearby, and usually a 3.

Myles
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 02-02-2014, 01:50 PM
JOSEPHVILLE GUN
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Feb 2009
Location: 
WENTZVILLE , MISSOURI
Posts: 
426
TPC Rating: 
100% (4)
Rem 37

Mine is serial number 00579 but the barrel has been replaced with a Hart barrel and it has a Kenyon trigger and Freeland stock. I have no idea when it was made.
Shane
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:00 PM.

Privacy Policy

DMCA Notice

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2000-2018 RimfireCentral.com
x