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Old 01-22-2011, 07:49 AM
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Daisy: Quick Skill ... Army: Quick Kill



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I came across this little article by Tom Gaylord.
And, it brought back a lot of memories from my high school days
working part-time at Leonard Bros Department store in FT Worth, Texas.
Instinctive Shooting with Airguns
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Back in the mid to late sixties, Daisy marketed a BB-gun without sights.
It was part of a kit call Quick Skill.
And, was used to teach (enhance) instinctive shooting abilities.
(Oxymoron: Teaching ... Instinctive Abilities)

It was marketed to the Army as a training-aid to develop snap-shooting skills.
The field training kit was called Quick Kill.

Shooting a rifle without sights causes (forces) the shooter to "look over" the barrel.
As such, the shooters head is more upright.

What's the problem with lowering the head to meet the sights?
Lowering the head reduces the field of view.
Yes, it does focus the shooter on the sights.
But, at the expense of situational awareness.

This is why M-16 (AR-15) sights are so tall.

And, Yes ... I owned one of the Daisy Quick Skill kits.
I was trying to learn how how to shoot at aerial targets.

It was helpful.

Maintaining a upright head posture allowed me to see (detect)
and follow (track) the aerial (or moving) targets more easily.

Quick Skill versus Quick Kill?
I don't recall if there was any difference - certainly not in principle.
Only in marketing.
Daisy was sensitive about being associated with the Viet Nam War effort.

We, in the Air Force, were not trained in snap-shooting.
Not even as a Security Policeman or for RED HORSE (554th) .
Reference: The "Quick Kill" Program
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:02 PM
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I went through that training in Army boot camp, it was a riot. We had these big washers we had to throw up in the air and hit them. After awhile it became boring so we were tossing up little stones. That became boring so we were taking some of the BBs out of the gun and were shooting at those. They're were quite a bit tougher though we did manage to hit quite a few. I often wondered what ever became of those guns. IIRC they had a full sized stock on them. I'd love to get one. A blast from the past. Thanks
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:31 AM
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Ah yes, 1968 at Ft Lewis, I got my introduction to teaching people to shoot. The "Quick Kill" program used a Daisy very similar to the current 499, but without ant sights.

Those trainees who were hunters, or had prior shooting experience, had problems with it (as did I) because of trying to "get good sight alignment and sight picture". The guys from NY and Jersey followed instructions, and did great. Usually shot 2" cubed blocks, but some of them could put tape over the hole in a washer and shoot through the tape.

I still use a basic technique of "Quick Kill" when teaching the use of shotguns for self defense; that is the second finger becomes the trigger finger, with the index finger alongside the a
"action" pointing forward. That, along with the index finger of the left (forward supporting) hand pointing straight forward under the forestock, allows a person to simply "point" at the target and operate the trigger.

When is the last time you "missed" something just pointing at it?
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i was reading about the point shoot, quick kill/skill, Chief aj, shoot where you look and all that jazz
been having issues with my cross dominance holdin me back, so i modified my old pump master by taking the sights off and making a barrel shroud out of black pvc to give me a sight plain.
its really quit halerious but the guns geting played out and a daisy would be much better with its one step action, shooting that crossmen for like 15 years i can hammer out bb's but still

any one else done any thing like this? figured i could just get the longest red rider style i could find than just add some to the stock to get it closer to the right length do the $30 daisys shoot good enough for this though ??
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:32 PM
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I have one of the quick skill rifles- they shoot harder than the new ones- and they have a spring loaded magazine like the Mod 25 pump- some times the gravity feed ones don't feed if you are pointing down- Lots of fun with mine I like shooting grass hoppers And those Necco candy wafers
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haha oh man 2mene that picture of mongo Cracks me up every time! dit you know he was a pro ball player?
back on topic however, ive added an inch to the crossmen stock and built up the "barrel" some more, i can hit Vitamins and coins on the ground with it
so im just gonna keep practicing with it for now, its kinda hard for me to justify payin over a 100 for a bb gun but i prolly will those Avanti champs seem to be the Cats .....

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Old 02-09-2011, 01:20 PM
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Remember his TV show"Webster"- I had a copy of the army training manual for Quick Kill and can't find it- I need to make a plunger fork to tear down Daisy bb guns and there was a dimensioned drawing in there on how to make one- anybody else have a copy??
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I saw an e version of the quick kill manual a few days ago and it was two or 3 dollars. scroll down the page for ordering info
http://www.pointshooting.com/index.htm
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i was in basic training back in the day. alot of days back and we were given bb guns to shoot like that. was to easy for me. wizzr
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any one else done any thing like this? figured i could just get the longest red rider style i could find than just add some to the stock to get it closer to the right length do the $30 daisys shoot good enough for this though ??
I've got a Gamo .22 "shotgun" that has an adapter to fire .22 pellets. Of course it's not too accurate from an unrifled barrel and my only sight is the front bead.
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