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Old 03-21-2008, 06:08 PM
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I also agree that Remington is missing a great marketing opportunity.
I don't understand the breakdown in marketing.
Why the Remington sales and advertising departments
don't capitalize on this opportunity is inexplicable.

I suspect that the heads of these departments
are well-qualified business professionals.
But, they may not be firearm enthusiasts.

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The fact that the 547 is a limited production rifle makes me wonder
if they're doing this as an attempt to attract more business for their Custom Shop.
There is a market in the USA for premium rimfire rifles or pistols.
But, it is a small market -
S&W Model 41,
Savage Mark II Classic,
Weatherby Mark XXII®,
Kimber 22,
Cooper 57M,
Anschutz Sporters,
Walther Sporting Weapons, etc.
(I'm sure I've left some pertinent manufacturer out ...
it is not intentional - just a few off the top of my head.)
Remington, as a matter of pride and industry leadership,
wishes to maintain a presence in this prestigious niche.

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I was under the impression that the Custom Shop guns had a long waiting time for delivery
and are at a much higher price, so there may be other motives for the limited production.
The Remington Custom Shop is, actually, a specialized, limited-production shop.
An in-house mini-factory, a semi-custom work-center producing short-run series of firearms.
Fabricating a sequence of formula rifles, rather than ... just a few, helps keep costs down.

However, the relatively small sales numbers generated by these series
wouldn't warrant a full-production run.

As such, the Custom Shop only has a limited number of models
that are in current production ... ready-made and on-the-shelf.

If a customer isn't satisfied with an off-the-shelf, custom shop model.
He my specify changes he desires by special order.
Such as, an up-graded stock, iron sights or different barrel length, etc.
Then, the wait kicks-in.


Boy! ... did I beat this horse to death - sorry.
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Old 03-24-2008, 01:55 PM
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GunBroker: 547 Classic 17 HMR

Posting this auction because of the photos.
Not many non-factory images available.



Remington 547 Classic 17 HMR
Started at: $800.00, # of bids: 0





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Old 03-24-2008, 09:21 PM
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1. The pictures of the 547 from the auction site are pretty similar to how my gun looks. Apparently Remington figures that they nay as well use a grade of wood that won't keep their owners from taking it out in the woods. Respectable - yes, Gorgeous - no. So be it - there are people that can do gorgeous custom stocks if you want to pay the price.

2. Correction to my earlier comment on the group in my test target supplied: the 100 yd group (5 shot) is 0.816 inches (courtesy of my new vernier calipers), rather than the 0.9 inches I stated in an earlier post. That should translate to a maximum of 0.408 inches at 50 yds, and probably would be a little less than that, since a 22 lr group tends to spread in a non-linear fashion as the distance increases.

3. You will notice the test target in the auction site photo was cut rather crudely, not signed, and no information provided about ammo used or group size. Apparently, the good folks at Remington don't pay attention to what the competion at Cooper and Kimber do - or don't care. Go figure!

4. Thanks for the information provided about the Remington Custom Shop! Pity that they don't realize the impression that a neat, informative test target has in helping people make their buying decisions.
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I was under the impression that the test target is 50 yds not 100 yds. Is that in the literature?
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They are supposedly warranting 1/2 inch at 50 yards so I would think they'd include something that met that standard, but with Remington lately who knows??
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My test target exceeds 0.5". At 100 yds, it would not be a bad group. Maybe I should dig out the paper work.
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I was under the impression that the test target is 50 yds not 100 yds. Is that in the literature?
Press Release: Firearms

Remington® Model 547™ Custom Classic Rimfire
– The Ultimate in Rimfire Performance and Design

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Attention to fit-and-finish details and use of these competition-quality barrels
allow Remington to guarantee sub-inch, five-shot group accuracy at 100 yards.

Each Model 547 is accuracy tested in the stock, just as the end-user will receive the gun,
not in a slave fixture as most standard accuracy tests are performed by other manufacturers;
and our gallery test target is included with each rifle.
I read the entire press release ...
can't determine if the test target was fired at 100 yards or not.
50 yard target ... interpolated to 100 yards ???
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GunBroker: 547 Classic 17 HMR 22" Custom .17 - CLOSED

Posting this closed auction because of the photos and actual price paid.
Not many non-factory images available.


547 Classic 17 HMR 22" Custom .17 NEW!!
Current Bid $920.00
Started at $920.00
CLOSED









Very plain stock ... disappointing.
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I emailed Rem. about the test target. I/we should know in 3-5 days.
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Remington® Model 547™ Custom Classic Rimfire
– The Ultimate in Rimfire Performance and Design


I read the entire press release ...
can't determine if the test target was fired at 100 yards or not.
50 yard target ... interpolated to 100 yards ???

Look what I found ...
Remington 547 Custom - 17 Hornady

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Comes with Factory test target, shot with Remington acu tip ammo .875 Group
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Ever onward through the fog. It shoots as well as my 597-17 anyways.
Wood is as about exiting as laminate, true enough.
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Ever onward through the fog. It shoots as well as my 597-17 anyways.
Wood is as about exiting as laminate, true enough.
And it only cost $850-1050 what a deal! Depending on where and how you purchase it, Remington progress.
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Not to be an A-&%$e, but I have a Marlin 917V in .17 hmr w/ a rifle basix trigger that shoots better then their test target!

Marlin ain't pure-ty though, just performs very well!
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I have not seen the 547 but I do own a 504 1n .22 cal. that produces pretty consistent 1/2"-5/8" 5 shot groups at 50 yds. with Ely Match EPS .The 547 sees rather pricey but I hope Remington does well with them.
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I can't speak for someone else's test target, but mine plainly said 100 yards on it. The 5 shot group was 0.816 inches (by my caliper). That is within their advertised guarantee of 0.5 inches or less. It would be helpful if they would also tell what ammo was used.

BTW, if the test target was shot with the action in the stock, rather than locked into a test fixture, it would explain why these test groups don't make most of us jump up and down. Depending on what scope is used by the test shooter, how skilled is the shooter, how he/she is feeling that day, any parallax error from the shooter's eye position, etc., the test group is likely to be capable of being beaten by a very good shooter that takes the time to find out what ammo that particular rifle likes best. No one should expect it to prove benchrest accuracy, but I'm quite confident that any of them will provide "minute of squirrel" accuracy. Yes, I know there are lots of other 22's that will also do that for less money. I have no argument with them. To each his own. If I were Remington, I'd be worried most about the Weatherby (Anschutz 64) Mark XXII that came out last year. It has comparable accuracy, great looks, and costs less. I can't figure out why anyone would buy the comparable (but plainer) model from Anschutz.
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