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Old 10-08-2019, 07:16 PM
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I am seriously thinking about getting a .222 Remington. A New Anschutz is North of $2,000. Used ones, especially earlier models, can be found. Came across a 1965 (Pre-Salt) Browning Safari in a .222 made in Finland. Nice wood. Seller says excellent bore. Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Old 10-08-2019, 08:57 PM
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The Browning of that era used a Sako action. I would suggest that action is a better design for a centerfire rifle than the Anschutz -- which is built on essentially a rimfire action with rear locking lugs. The Anschutz also is limited to SAAMI spec pressure of a .222 Rem., while the Sako action will handle the higher .223 pressures handily. I'm sure you will hear from dissenters and while I own an Anschutz .222, it's loaded lightly and my heavier loads are used in a Rem. action.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:38 PM
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While I can not offer experience regarding the Anschutz 222, I do own a Remington 722 in 222 that I absolutely love. My brother has a model 700 with a heavier barrel also in 222 that is extremely accurate as well. There is also the option of a 40x. Considering the inherent accuracy of both the cartridge and the model, I would imagine that combination would be pretty awesome.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:46 PM
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I had the opportunity to shoot a fellow member's Sako .222 sporter. It's a real shooter and 222 is a great fun, accurate cartridge without the noise of 223 and without the recoil.

Bonus: it was super easy to develop a good load in 222. Just change seating depth and powder charge until all of the holes become one.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:56 PM
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I had heard that the .222 was at the upper limit for the Anshcutz action -- although I am sure they are fine rifles. I do really like the caliber as it is near perfect for 100 yard paper-punching. I don't get more accuracy by stepping up in either caliber or power at that distance, and recoil is very well controlled by even a medium weight stock.

If I were going to buy just one (used), I would go with either a Sako L461 or a Remington 722 or 700. I have had good luck with CZ and Savage too, although my Savage has a Shilen heavy barrel on it and isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison with the Anschutz.

If you are dead-set on the Browning, I would ask the seller to measure the distance to the lands, to get a sense of how much the barrel has been shot. I have one BR .222 that had been shot so much that a bullet had to be seated alllllll the way at the end of that long .222 case neck to get to an optimum jump. It takes a lot of shooting to erode the throat of a .222 barrel. But I would measure it anyway.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:16 PM
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Lots of Sakos out there in the .222, they are awesome rifles


...I'm privileged to own an old L461 vixen W/Bofer bbl. in .222 varmint,

one of my true treasures...great cartridge / fun shooters

Sounds like fun looking



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Old 10-08-2019, 11:47 PM
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Lots of Sakos out there in the .222, they are awesome rifles


...I'm privileged to own an old L461 vixen W/Bofer bbl. in .222 varmint,

one of my true treasures...great cartridge / fun shooters

Sounds like fun looking



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I had one and sold it many years ago. Now it's on my wish list. Really like the .222.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:24 AM
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Only one bit to add.....ask if the owner will check the twist rate of the barrel for you. Most .222 Rem. rifles will have a 1 in 14 or a 1 in 12 twist rate. That means bullets around 50 -52 grains are going to be the heaviest you can load, before starting to lose accuracy, due to twist rate. If you are only target shooting at relatively close range (250 yards and under), not a problem. If you envision hunting coyote size or larger animals at further ranges, you would need a faster twist for heavier bullets. As I'm sure you know, the .222 was the dominant short range benchrest caliber, until the 6PPC showed up; and it still can run with it today in modern equipment with a good driver.
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JamesHP sir I have 3x 527 rifles in 222:

Top down: Varmint, American and FS


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Old 10-09-2019, 07:16 AM
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JamesHP sir I have 3x 527 rifles in 222:

Top down: Varmint, American and FS


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Be glad to take that Varmint model off you so you don't feel you have to shoot it anymore.
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I've had a number of 222 rifles, they have all shot well. The CZ shot well but I Prefer my 788 and 722 Remingtons. My 722 Rem Magnum also is a great rifle. I've never bought an Anschutz due to the reasons listed by others.
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:40 AM
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Great stuff guys! Thank you very much! I am not dead set on any specific 222 Remington right now and I do appreciate all your suggestions.

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Jim

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Old 10-09-2019, 06:14 PM
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I'm late to this party, but I'd like to add my vote of confidence in what has been suggested here. I'm fortunate enough to have four .222s and love them all:
  • Sako A-! (Heavy Barrel and wide fore stock)
  • Savage 112 Series J Varmint (HB also)
  • Rem 700 BDL Varmint Special (HB)
  • Kimber of Oregon CC light sporter
No need for mods or customizations for any, and they all use the same handload
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:28 PM
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I've been a big fan of the 222 REM for a good while. It's easier to find an accurate load than it is to find one that isn't. In that way it reminds me of the 308. My 222 is a CZ527A. Don't be afraid of this caliber becoming obsolete. As long as 223 REM brass are available you can make your own 222 brass.
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Signalman1, I have to throw mine in here also, love my little 222 LUX.
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