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Old 10-06-2019, 09:04 AM
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Could anyone recommend a new model anschutz for shooting off a bench at 30 and 50 yards. Heavy barrel and a single shot would be nice. Only using it for target not for hunting, are the new anschutz just as good or better than the model 54's. Would like to stay under the $2,500.00 range.
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:09 AM
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If you can swing a few hundred bucks more I'd go with a 1913 in a BR50 stock.

https://tsswarehouse.com/shop/anschu...schutz-011762/
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Old 10-06-2019, 11:53 AM
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What do you mean by "new Anschutz"? If you mean 2013 or 54.30, you won't find a new one for $2,500. How serious are you going to be shooting from a bench? If just casual fun, you might be better off looking at a 64 action. Maybe a 1416 with a beavertail stock or an MPR. If you are going to be more serious about BR shooting, I would look at a 1913 barreled action and a BR50-U7 straight line stock. Your cost would be about $2,700.

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Old 10-06-2019, 12:04 PM
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There are some fine vintage rifles for sale that will more than meet your needs for substantially less. 1411 for example. Can be had for $900-1400. I think the older ones are better made.
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Old 10-06-2019, 02:16 PM
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ANA has one of these on sale, it's a display rifle.

https://www.anschutznorthamerica.com...0_U2_DEMO.html
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:07 PM
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The 64 MPR would be worth looking at for around The $1400 area. Built with a wide stock for riding the bags, heavy barrel, good weight to ride the bags, can be shot as a repeater or use the single shot adapter.
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Old 10-06-2019, 03:44 PM
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Several good suggestions have been made. Does the $2500 max include a scope?

In any case, here are some pictures of the rifles suggested.

The MPR or Multi Purpose Repeater has a long, heavy barrel and, as noted above, will sit in a front rest nicely because of its extra wide "beavertail" forend. It is a 64 action rifle with a very nice trigger that has a pull weight of about 6 ounces.



The MPR is less expensive than any new 54 action. Even more affordable than the MPR is the 64 action 1416 with a beavertail stock.



The most affordable new 54 action rifle that many use on the bench is the 1710 HB, a heavy barrel repeater with a sporter stock (not to be confused with the 1710 DKL, which has a sporter stock, a thin Schnabel forend, and standard profile barrel). It comes in both single stage and two stage trigger models, both of which can be modified to have a trigger pull around 10 - 12 ounces.



It was suggested above that for a little more than the budget limit would be the 1913 BR 50. It is a single shot with a match chamber, a heavy barrel, and the excellent 5018 trigger that can go down to 2.1 ounces. It has the most bench friendly stock available on a factory Anschutz, with a 3" wide flat forend designed for a 3" wide front bag.



The latter is probably among the best choices for a new factory Anschutz rifle when it comes to benchrest shooting. More affordable yet still top notch is a used Anschutz. As suggested above, the 1411 is a good example. It is a single shot with a match chamber, a long, heavy barrel, a good trigger, and a stock with a very suitable stock. The forend bottom is wide and parallel to the barrel, which is a good combination for bench shooting.

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Old 10-06-2019, 07:55 PM
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+1 on the 1913/BR-50. I have a couple of 54 sporters that I shoot off the bench. Whenever I get to shoot my friends 1913/BR-50 I find it so much easier to shoot well. The combination of the stock and the wonderful trigger seem to make it almost effortless to get very satisfying groups.
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What kind of groups are you getting with the 1913/BR-50 at 50 yards.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:25 AM
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What kind of groups are you getting with the 1913/BR-50 at 50 yards.
I get about 0.26 to 0.27 average for about 75, 5 shot groups at 50 yards. I use the BR50-U7 straight line stock.

Good luck, Jim
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Old 10-07-2019, 12:57 PM
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I get about 0.26 to 0.27 average for about 75, 5 shot groups at 50 yards. I use the BR50-U7 straight line stock.
What kind of ammo are you using to get such consistently good groups?
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Old 10-07-2019, 03:41 PM
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What kind of ammo are you using to get such consistently good groups?
The .26-.27 average was with a mix of SK Rifle Match, SK Pistol Match and some Center X.

Regards, Jim

I just looked up an earlier post I did where I gave my experience with my 1913. The average of 170, 5 shot groups, CTC was 0.226. The .26-.27 and 75 groups was the result of a poor memory. The 170 groups ammo was probably the same but most likely also included some SK Std + and some SK Biathlon Sport.

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Old 10-07-2019, 04:23 PM
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Let me throw out a few targets Ö







These are three very different Annies, two 54 actions, one 64 action, 22 LR and 17 HMR, but what they all have in common is accuracy. Heck, Iím a lousy shot, and Iíve gotten good groups out of every Annie Iíve every shot.

Now, if youíre going to shoot from a bench, then by all means, get a benchrest-oriented model (wide forearm, light trigger, etc.). But beyond that, I wouldnít fuss too much about the specific gun.

Enjoy!
Dave
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The .26-.27 average was with a mix of SK Rifle Match, SK Pistol Match and some Center X.

Regards, Jim

I just looked up an earlier post I did where I gave my experience with my 1913. The average of 170, 5 shot groups, CTC was 0.226. The .26-.27 and 75 groups was the result of a poor memory. The 170 groups ammo was probably the same but most likely also included some SK Std + and some SK Biathlon Sport.

Regards, Jim
Those results are incredible, especially for the SK ammo. While I sometimes get some very small groups with SK RM, none of my Anschutz rifles can shoot it so well so consistently. You must have an exceptional lot.
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:21 PM
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Those results are incredible, especially for the SK ammo. While I sometimes get some very small groups with SK RM, none of my Anschutz rifles can shoot it so well so consistently. You must have an exceptional lot.
Well, I am not getting the consistency that I want. Remember, those average group sizes are composed of groups that range from 0.100 to 0.400 or more. So on any given day my targets might look great and on another day they might look awful.

I have recently been trying to find a tuner setting that will improve consistency. I have been shooting 3 shot groups, changing the tuner by 10 "clicks" then shooting another 3 shot group. When I get a nice small group, I shoot another 3 shot group at the same tuner setting. So far, the second group is never as good as the first one. So, I keep plugging along.

Regards, Jim

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