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Old 10-05-2019, 08:31 AM
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Barrel Rust on new guns?



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So I bought a 795 and 60 recently. Every time I take them to the range I bring them home and clean them. Well, I started to notice that when I wipe down the barrel I get orange rust on the cloth. Both of them do this. Even after being stored in the cases.

I thought maybe the cases were causing it, so I switches cases, but the same problem remains. It's stored in a AC'ed house.

I've never had a blued gun do this. I've got a '79 S&W Model 10 and checked for rust yesterday and it wiped clean, Zero rust.

Does Marlin used a different process to blue their barrels?

What do you guys recommend to stop this from happening?

PS I've been using Remoil on all my guns.
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:57 AM
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That is unusual. Are you seeing any rust spots on the barrel or just getting an orange tinge to the cloth? My newest Marlin is from '84 so I cant speak to the new finish but I have not heard of this from others.

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Old 10-05-2019, 10:26 AM
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It's an orange rust color on the cloth. No pitting or rust spots.

A thought occurred... could it be the bluing coming off on the cloth?
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:29 AM
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It’s rust. Blue guns rust. Pull the action out of the stock clean it with solvent, clean it with clip or balistol , or some kind of gun oil, let dry or wax it with Renaissance. Store in non silicon impregnated gun sock. For long term storage I spray with barricade.
Bag of desiccant in the safe , golden rod heater in the safe. Dehumidifier in the room.

Best bet, move to desert

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Old 10-05-2019, 10:44 AM
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1, No cases. A gun sock if you must.
2, Wipe with Breakfree CLP (remove the action from the stock)
3, I live in the South and have a/c it's common.
4, Nothing wrong with the rifles blue IS rust (as has been pointed out)
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Old 10-05-2019, 11:03 AM
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Just make sure to wax it with Renaissance wax or Johnson's paste wax after you clean it. While bluing is a rust process it should NOT continue to rust after the bluing process is completed. If it continues to generate rust, I would call the manufacturer before the warranty expires.
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Old 10-05-2019, 11:41 AM
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I store them in soft cases. But I am currently leaving them out and oiled (exterior) with mobile 1 synthetic to see if that helps. The bores are clean. No rust in the bores.

I do live in Florida and it is humid, even though we keep the house AC'ed. My question is why isn't my Model 10 showing the same issue? The 10 is clean when I wipe it down.

If I wax the barrel do I need to wipe all the oil off?
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Old 10-05-2019, 11:58 AM
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Oiling the exterior is not the best option. Oil attracts dust and dust attracts and retains moisture. Wax is a MUCH better option and will resist moisture. I live in South Florida so I know what you are facing. All my guns are cleaned and waxed at least every 6 months when not in use. I clean with mineral spirits and wax all the external metal parts. I use oil only on the internal metal parts for lubrication. You must remove all oil to have the wax adhere to the metal surface.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:59 AM
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Different strokes make these forums great.

I only use BC Barricade all my guns, inside and out. Not as a lube but a rust preventative. Originally developed for Navy Seals to protect their weapons from saltwater and humid conditions.

Many guns, no rust of any kind, even my duck guns.

You can even use it as penetrating oil.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:33 AM
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It is not a good ideal to store a gun in the case you transport it in. If there is any moisture in the case the gun can rust. I store my guns in a gun safe and I have some in gun socks in the safe. I take the gun out of the gun sock or safe, put in gun case toe take to range or hunting. When I return home, take it out of the case, wipe it down with oily cloth, back in the safe. If I handle a gun and put it back in the safe it's always wiped down after handling. I use gun socks on some to prevent dings and dents while handling.
It only takes 10 seconds to wipe a gun down.
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Old 10-07-2019, 02:48 PM
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I store them in soft cases. But I am currently leaving them out and oiled (exterior) with mobile 1 synthetic to see if that helps. The bores are clean. No rust in the bores.

I do live in Florida and it is humid, even though we keep the house AC'ed. My question is why isn't my Model 10 showing the same issue? The 10 is clean when I wipe it down.

If I wax the barrel do I need to wipe all the oil off?
Who knows why the S&W isn't doing it.

The issue(s) is/are..

Mobil 1 is engine oil and shouldn't be used on firearms.
BreakFree CLP is what you want. it's cheap at walmart, get the right oil for a firearm! A/C only dehumidifies if it's installed correctly.
Most are not, again I live 2 miles from the Atlantic in Florida.
USE a gun sock or nothing but no cases...

Don't over oil the firearm. Marlin points this out in the manual. Use GUN oil... NOT engine oil.


If you wax the barrel (not necessary IMO) no just a wipe with Breakfree CLP
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Old 10-07-2019, 03:02 PM
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https://www.marlinfirearms.com/sites...ev_2015-07.pdf

Page 9 owners manual

...In any case, all moisture should be removed. Exterior metal finishes may be wiped down with a lightly oiled cloth. For long term storage, lightly oil the bore, barrel and action with gun oil. Your gun should be completely unloaded and stored in a dry area with the action open.

Never store your gun in a carrying case.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:31 AM
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Just make sure to wax it with Renaissance wax or Johnson's paste wax after you clean it. While bluing is a rust process it should NOT continue to rust after the bluing process is completed. If it continues to generate rust, I would call the manufacturer before the warranty expires.
Actually, it does continue, for decades...even centuries...
even very well-cared for guns will age and brown...
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:39 AM
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I store them in soft cases. But I am currently leaving them out and oiled (exterior) with mobile 1 synthetic to see if that helps. The bores are clean. No rust in the bores.

I do live in Florida and it is humid, even though we keep the house AC'ed. My question is why isn't my Model 10 showing the same issue? The 10 is clean when I wipe it down.

If I wax the barrel do I need to wipe all the oil off?
Um...lots of no there.

Soft case storage...gods no.
Car oil...no.

Dessicant in a case helps...but only as a temporary measure...
you can rejuvenate it by nuking it in a microwave...

With Florida humidity, best bet is an actual SAFE with a Goldenrod or other internal drier.
Even more important is never store in direct flow path of an A/C vent...

And i'll admit that Marlin's process isn't as deep as S&W's.
Marlins always were Value-based...which means a good solid effort, but not top-of-the-line by any means.
And also, like any other metal tool they do need regular care.
My saws get similar treatment...(once you go Japanese pull saws...lol)

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Old 10-19-2019, 12:04 PM
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Well now,
I have multiple rifles and hand guns, a few of which are from 1902, 3 from the 30's, the rest in the last 60 years.
They all have survived with no rust, and have been in cases [not sleeves] cleaned after use with Hoppes 9 and lightly oiled.
I run a dry patch before shooting them. Clean as soon as I get home.

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