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Old 09-16-2019, 10:31 PM
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Here was the best from 1st Kidd build. Like I said they love this ammo.

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Old 09-16-2019, 10:32 PM
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What Kidd barrels are capable of on good calm days with a tuner. This was 2nd Kidd barrel build. 1st one did a hair better for it's best.

Looks great. Wouldn't know where to begin with a tuner, lol. Maybe I need to read up on those.

Looking forward to the brick of pistol match coming in.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:37 PM
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I shot those from a bipod and rear sandbag.


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Old 09-16-2019, 10:41 PM
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Tuners work. Notice both of those barrels shot great on tuner setting 186.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:42 PM
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All my Kidd barrels can shoot like that. So will others.
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:50 PM
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Here was 10 shots. Not one flyer. Same 186 setting.

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Old 09-16-2019, 10:53 PM
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Here was 10 shots. Not one flyer. Same 186 setting.

Now that's what I am looking for, lol. I'd be quite happy with that.

What bipod you running there?
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The thing that strikes me about your targets is the vertical stringing. Some of that could be the ammo, but in my rifles that has usually been the crown, the torque on the action screws, or the ignition/firing pin. I would gently test the inside grooves with the end of a paper clip to see whether you can feel a burr there. I would check the torque on the action screws and set them to whatever Kidd says the number should be. And I would clean the firing pin, and see if it needs slicking up with an Arkansas stone. Just until it is "slippery" to the touch.

A chronograph can help you figure out whether variations in ammo speed are the culprit, but the above fixes shouldn't cost too much to check out. Good luck! And let us know how it goes.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:03 PM
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Nothing wrong with Kidd single stage triggers. I have a couple.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:04 PM
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When you get some groups in the .1's, the time to tinker is gone.
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The thing that strikes me about your targets is the vertical stringing. Some of that could be the ammo, but in my rifles that has usually been the crown, the torque on the action screws, or the ignition/firing pin. I would gently test the inside grooves with the end of a paper clip to see whether you can feel a burr there. I would check the torque on the action screws and set them to whatever Kidd says the number should be. And I would clean the firing pin, and see if it needs slicking up with an Arkansas stone. Just until it is "slippery" to the touch.

A chronograph can help you figure out whether variations in ammo speed are the culprit, but the above fixes shouldn't cost too much to check out. Good luck! And let us know how it goes.
Thanks for those observations. I will look into this as well. Kidd says 10# on the action screw so I will set to that and test first.

So I should feel a burr or something that just doesn't feel right with the paper clip?

Thanks again!
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:34 PM
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Thanks for those observations. I will look into this as well. Kidd says 10# on the action screw so I will set to that and test first.

So I should feel a burr or something that just doesn't feel right with the paper clip?

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Just something I saw my smith do with a pistol barrel he was checking out. There should be no burrs or other irregularities in the grooves at the muzzle. Don't overdo it, but a light check with a metal implement should give you some tactile feedback. My smith was using some thin tweezers and a light touch. But a paperclip would do.
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Just something I saw my smith do with a pistol barrel he was checking out. There should be no burrs or other irregularities in the grooves at the muzzle. Don't overdo it, but a light check with a metal implement should give you some tactile feedback. My smith was using some thin tweezers and a light touch. But a paperclip would do.
The idea of probing around inside the muzzle with a piece of sharp metal doesn't sound like a great idea to me. You can usually see a problem under good light and some magnification. If you want to stick something in there, I'd suggest something like a sharp wood toothpick. But, maybe I'm overly conservative.

Regarding barrel cleaning. If you aren't fully satisfied with the way it's shooting, then a proper cleaning won't hurt. And the new barrel system makes it very easy to remove the barrel for chamber cleaning.
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I think it is pretty clear from what I wrote that I am suggesting a careful, conservative aporoach. "Probe" is a bit much. But your suggestion of a toothpick seems like a good idea. Whatever gets the OP the data he needs.

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I haven't seen anyone comment yet on your question regarding "fowler/warmer" shots before firing after a lull in shooting, so here goes: when I was shooting small bore competition (many years ago), my general routine was to put at least 3 rounds through the barrel before going to the sighter bull. I would say that this was generally the rule with other competitors also rather than the exception.
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