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Old 08-24-2019, 01:19 PM
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Sav 93R17 heavy barrel @ 100 yd.s



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I shot these targets yesterday at a 100 yd.s using a Mueller 6x18 AO and CCI A17 17 gr. Varmint Tip @ 2650 fps. I was shooting off a portable table with a Caldwell 3 point rest. The temperature was in the 80's with virtually no wind. Most of my previous targets had been at 60 yd.s, but I moved to a farm road in a corn field where I was able to measure off a 100 yd.s with my laser range finder. This was the first time I have actually zeroed the Savage at a measured 100 yd.s

I shot some Winchester 17 gr. varmint tip at 2550 but was not impressed with the results and went to the A17 17 gr. VT @ 2650 fps which I had previously used.
I waited a couple minutes between shots. I shot the first 3 " bull establishing a zero. I then moved to a smaller 2" bull.
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The 4 rounds circled were 4 consecutive shots.
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Maybe not the most scientific, but I am more than satisfied with the results. At 60 yd.s in the past I was able to get similar groups.

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Old 08-24-2019, 07:53 PM
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Depending on the production lot, I generally get groups of between 1" and 2" at 100 yards with my pre-A/T 93R17BVSS. The accuracy of 17HMR ammo seems to be inconsistent between production lots, just like it is with CCI/Hornady 17HM2.
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Old 08-25-2019, 12:31 PM
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I think the quality of the ammo available today has degraded from the early ammo. I have a Marlin 917 VS that delivered groups in the mid .4" size at 100 yards pretty regularly from a good bench and front rest when I had no wind. I took it to the range a couple of weeks ago after not shooting it for quite a spell and used new production ammo. I didn't manage a group under 1" shooting from the same bench at the same target board and using the same rest as I did with when I shot the small groups. I had a flyer in every group that opened it to over an inch. Most would have been 3/4-7/8" without the flyer. I have some of the old ammo left and I'm going to dig it out and see if it's the ammo or me.
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Fliers

I am always consternated by fliers. I shot on the 4 position, 50' .22 rifle team when I was in college. I was already a good shot. But 50' indoor using "real" target rifles was a new experience. Our coach was an old 1st Sergeant. Our range was in the basement of one of the ROTC buildings. By today's standards, we all probably had elevated blood Pb levels. I made the traveling team early on and my rifle of choice was the only Rem.40x in the inventory. The one Anschutz we had was shot by the #1 shooter. The other 8 shot Win. 52's. This was in 1959-63.

The coach was always on us to call our shots. He would take away our spotting scopes and make us call our targets as we shot. I used dual aperture sights with a K tube in between. I think that is what it was called. I can't remember for sure. Remington SV was our ammo. I don't recall ever having a flier from that ammunition. I do -still- remember some of the shots I dropped. I had a possible 99 going in offhand during practice one day. I was on the last bull. Nerves -excitement- for my best ever got to me and on the 3rd or 4th presentation, I had my bull and didn't take the shot. I tried to force it and shot a 7. The old sergeant just looked at me and asked me where the shot went. "5:30 in the 7 ring." Lesson learned, but I think 97 was my best in any of the matches or practice thereafter.

Anyway, the A17 lot number I was shooting the other day was G21Z301. The new box I bought at about the same time is M05Z301. Both at Walmart. I will use some of the new box and see if it is as good, better, or worse.

I shoot Aguila SEHV in my .22s. I have found it to be very consistent. I wish
Aguila made .17HMR.

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