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Old 07-21-2019, 08:28 PM
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CZ 452 worth the money over a Savage 93r17



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Right now I have a 93r17 Savage that's a really accurate rifle and I've been thinking of picking up a CZ 452. Would the CZ be enough of an upgrade over the Savage to justify the extra money?

I've always thought about getting a CZ and kept putting it off and now that they are no longer selling the LH models I've been thinking harder about snagging one before they get really hard to find.

My biggest gripe with the Savage is the cheap feel to it(especially the stock)but beings it's a LH model there really isn't much in the way of aftermarket support. I did find one aftermarket stock for a LH but it's a thumbhole which I do not want. The CZ looks to be a nicer built gun.
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:41 PM
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If you are left handed you are in luck. I recommend the 452 for exactly the reasons you listed. The design of the 452 is a world apart from the Savage. The CZ fit and finish superb. The 452 is much nicer finish than either the 455 and 457 which are the right hand replacements. The wonderful old 452 is available for the LH shooters. My information is even the LH 452 are officially discontinued. I think these (452) cost to much to manufacture. As they say, a word to wise.
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Old 07-21-2019, 11:10 PM
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I can't speak to the difference between the 452 and the other models, but can speak to the value of carrying a gun you love vs one with 2nd rate qualities. I have 2 really fine .22s; a Remington 541S and a Mauser 201 Lux. Both are wicked accurate and characterized by exceptional fit and finish. They are a joy to shoot whether in the squirrel woods or at the rifle range. I didn't always have quality firearms, but I sure do enjoy it now. So I encourage you to acquire the best guns you can and you will rarely be disappointed.
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:38 AM
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The 452 if you can find one is a far superior gun to the savage in my opinion having owned both. The only down side to the CZ is you can't get one in all stainless.

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The CZ 452 is a big upgrade of the Savage. Had the Savage, have two of the 452s. The hard part is going to be finding a 452. CZ lists one model of 452 on their website. It's called the Grand Finale and it's $877 at Buds Guns. Found this one on Gunbroker. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/818231026
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:09 PM
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Would the CZ be enough of an upgrade over the Savage to justify the extra money?
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:53 PM
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The Savage gets the job done

If a gun is just a tool, the Savage may suffice. Otherwise, the CZ will likely make you happier.
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Old 07-25-2019, 10:16 AM
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I have both guns and I agree that the Savage feels cheap. Although I love the looks and feel of the CZ 452 you won't necessarily find it to be more accurate than the Savage.
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Maybe not more accurate..... more reliable.... absolutely. Never opened the bolt on the CZ and had the cartridges in the magazine exit the gun all at once!
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I've owned two Savage 93r17 Classics (one of the prettiest rifles Savage ever built), both gave me fits with the magazines to the point that I couldn't stand to fool with them and down the road they went. They shot no better than any of my other .17hmrs so there was no point in keeping them, a shame as they were very easy on the eyes.

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Old 07-26-2019, 08:47 AM
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Worth every penny of the difference. I've had Salvages, never again! The CZ is better in design, fit and finish, and overall quality.
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Old 07-26-2019, 09:28 AM
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I wouldn't choose the 452. I would go with the 457.

The thing with the 452's is that if they are good - they are great. If not, you are on your own and there's really nothing you can do. CZ never supported them to any appreciable extent - especially when they show up with a bad barrel.

If you check back 5-8 years, you will find a constant flow of 452's showing up here on the forum that wouldn't shoot and subsequently got sent down the river...

I owned 2 453's. I am down to one. If I get another one - it will be a 457 and I will have the ability to swap out the barrel when it doesn't shoot.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:17 AM
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After owning a Bmag, will never buy another Savage. By far, lowest quality firearm I have ever owned.

I understand that they are generally accurate (excepting my skinny barrel Bmag), however, I value workmanship, fit and finish. It isn’t like the CZ costs that much more. You won’t be sorry.
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:32 PM
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The CZ 452 is a big upgrade of the Savage. Had the Savage, have two of the 452s. The hard part is going to be finding a 452. CZ lists one model of 452 on their website. It's called the Grand Finale and it's $877 at Buds Guns. Found this one on Gunbroker. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/818231026

I've been eyeing that exact gun. the shop that has it is only a couple hours from me so I could buy it and just go and pick it up.

I did dress the Savage up with a Boyds stock, DIP trigger guard/bottom metal, and an oversized bolt handle so it now looks as good as it shoots. The cheap mags are the only thing I'm still not crazy about.

I might just pick the CZ up just to have one but keep using the Savage for now. I wish I could find a LH 452 .22lr because that is what I really want over another .17.
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Old 07-27-2019, 07:13 AM
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The CZ is a superior rifle in terms of build quality functionality and finish. I can’t speak on the difference in accuracy. I don’t have a 452 in 17 to compare my 93r17 to, but I have both CZ 457 and a 93r17. Like you said the savage is very accurate. As accurate as factory ammo allows. But the hardwood stock, magazine bolt and trigger are inferior to the CZ. Even if you replaced the stock on a savage, it stilL wouldn’t be as nice. I’ve contemplated it myself. The 452 won’t be around for much longer, most left are left handed. I’d grab it up if you have the funds and are contemplating it.
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