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Old 06-20-2019, 12:47 PM
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Tnx guys for the info! I might get an HW30 in addition to the HW35E...I'm hooked on that walnut stock on the 35E Walnut.
Whatever you choose get both shipped from Krale at the same time and you will save big money
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:00 PM
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Tnx guys for the info! I might get an HW30 in addition to the HW35E...I'm hooked on that walnut stock on the 35E Walnut.
Similar in power to the HW35E and possibly only a little stouter cock is the Hw50. I just got one and it's got nice checkering and stippling in the stock. Mine shoots 7.9 grain 177 around 810 fps into little pellet size round holes @ 11yard. That's 5 shot groups. More than one bushy tailed man-eating tree rats has terminally felt its presence. Nice gun not as classic as a 35 but very nice. The 95 is a great gun. Cocks similar to the 35 and possibly easier than the 50 ands a 900 fps tack driver. Literally, i shot a target staple with mine @ 50yds. Cans easily out to a hundred with it. Same power as a 97/77 with a lot less weight and cocking effort. There's a Weihrauch for every need.

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Old 07-10-2019, 12:34 PM
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Went with a soft neck pillow as a rest at the balance point, shoulder mounted at rear, elbow support to table, light hold/contact. Groups/poi tightened up.
I think the neck pillow is a bit too soft, going to try a section of pool noodle next then work on moving the rest position by 2" forward/back of the balance point.
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Old 07-10-2019, 07:09 PM
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Cut a 6" hunk off a 2.5"ish oct. pool noodle, that fits between the jaws of the Caldwell Rock bench rest. -0- cost, a few years ago I found it along the road....yeah, Im a scrounger.....
Set the rifle at the balance point, shoulder support only, elbows on table, lightish hold, cheapie Gamo WC's pretty much cuts cloverleafs. I was tweaking the scope so I didnt try forward/back positions and ended up playing/losing track of time for a good hour. YES, a GOOD hour
Imo, this density and size foam makes a good rest and allows me to utilize my existing bench rest rig by just changing out the front bag for the foam.
Kinda nice not having to wear 'ears' shooting this .22.

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Old 07-11-2019, 01:41 AM
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Yep lots of fun. What distance are you shooting clover leafs?
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:55 AM
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Initially was at 10 (paced off) 'yards', got a number of one atop another, a bunch of shots cutting each other/cloverleafs so I moved it out to 15 'yards', then when that got boring I was picking plant leaves on out in the yard at 20ish and watching holes appear where I aimed, along with,"I wonder where that one went?', impossible to tell in the lawn. Had to adjust for more elev out there, Lots of drop in those big 22s! Figured if I could bet decent groups with the cheap Gamo's about anything else should be better.
Thinking I better set up paper.

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Old 07-11-2019, 11:32 AM
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Humble Pie

Just came in from a session.
Things were going so well yesterday that, of course, I just had to change up my setup.....epic fail.
About 50 shots in all on paper at 20yd. paced off, a few in the weeds to start off with a warmed up gun and shooter.
A few good hits at poa, a few cut each other but I cant claim it to be more than luck. A lot of trouble with high or low hits. Suspect inconsistent hold pressure to shoulder and/or placement of buttpad on shoulder; ie, operator error.
Returned to my setup from yesterday and shot a quarter size 5 shot group on bull (spot the size of a pellet) #7 but some cut each other then moved to #8 and had a good hit. Next 4 made a 5 shot group that a dime covers completely edge to edge.
So thus ended my humble pie lesson for today.
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Are you still using a rest? Stock screens tight? I never had a springer shoot well on a rest of any kind.
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Screws tight. And this rifle probably has less than 250 pellets through it, pretty much as new.
Rest, yes, as per my post #34. My many cloverleafs yesterday at 10 and 15yd and my final today 5 shot under a dime at 20yd all done with my pool noodle 'pad' in the Caldwell top and jaws. These results pretty much equal or better my open hand with back of hand on a block as a 'rest'.
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GC1, you really need to spring for some better pellets, JSB, RWS, H&N. They will usually get that group size down to one hole out to 15 and just slightly larger at 25.
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Spring for some better pellets, nice pun!
Yes, I know, and when these are gone I shall be forced to, lol; they have been hanging around far too long and I consider 'burning them up as break-in' aint a bad purpose. Break in for not only the gun, but myself, my 'skills', such as they are with cartridge arms are not all transferable to springers!
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Screws tight. And this rifle probably has less than 250 pellets through it, pretty much as new.
Rest, yes, as per my post #34. My many cloverleafs yesterday at 10 and 15yd and my final today 5 shot under a dime at 20yd all done with my pool noodle 'pad' in the Caldwell top and jaws. These results pretty much equal or better my open hand with back of hand on a block as a 'rest'.
don't sandwich your hand between the gun and rest. Shoot off your elbows, only steadying the middle of your forearm against a sand bag. The rifle needs to float in your unsupported open hand. Putting the stock on your supported hand is the same as using a rest. Your trigger hand needs to grip the rife as light possible. The butt should only contact your shoulder enough to keep it from sliding out. This is ten shots at 40 yards with a varying 5 to 7 mph cross wind. The sticker is 1". This is my Hw30 which is a lower power springer break barrel. Your 97 should be at least as capable. Did you try air arms 8.4 pellets yet.
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Old 07-12-2019, 08:34 AM
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Mine is 22 cal., 8.4gr'ers are .177?
My actual 20yd 5 shot group is ctc .375ish with plinker Gamo's. If I could make that fairly common Id be pretty happy....for now.
Ill try your 'rest position'.
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Just got a 500ct tin of H&N FTT off Amazon Prime at a good price and free shipping with Prime. Several accounts online referencing these as good in the 97 got my interest.
They are the heavy dome 14.66ish and 5.5. Mic'ing the head shows about .218 and the skirts are .223ish. They thumb press into the chamber a bit stiff but fine.
Initial offhand impression with only a few shots on a swinger is they got 'thwack' and I believe I noticed less twang in the gun.
Am I right to assume that a smidge 'too big' a pellet is better than one a smidge 'too small'?
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I have a Diana 34 in .177 and Diana 48 in .22 along with a couple Feinwerkbau 300's and a 601. What I've found is that if I shoot the 34 and 48 are shot off a slick bag on my front rest they both shoot very well. The 10M rifles shoot well off anything.

The time to buy pellets is Black Friday, lots of great prices on good pellets and usually free shipping too.
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