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Old 03-14-2019, 11:50 AM
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Hodgdon 4895 cleaner than Varget?



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Just tried some H4895, for .223 in my Ar-15. Looks like this powder leaves a lot less residue on the cases versus Varget. Have you found h4895 to be cleaner, as well as work just as well, for .223 compared to Varget?

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Old 03-14-2019, 12:43 PM
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In my experience with .308 WIN, the Varget powder is cleaner than H4895, but I am sure there are variances in different lots. If you want really clean, try the CFE 223 powder. Amazingly clean compared to regular powders. I use CFE BLK in my 7.62X39 loads and it is also impressively clean and the most accurate powder for that caliber.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:29 PM
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In my experience with .308 WIN, the Varget powder is cleaner than H4895, but I am sure there are variances in different lots. If you want really clean, try the CFE 223 powder. Amazingly clean compared to regular powders. I use CFE BLK in my 7.62X39 loads and it is also impressively clean and the most accurate powder for that caliber.
I will look into that......


I do have an SKS in 7.62x39, but I have never hand loaded for it, since the best groups with factory ammo are about 3 inch groups, i figured hand loading, probably wouldn't help shrink the groups. now i'm wondering if an SKS might be worth trying?
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I reload 7.62X39 for my Howa mini action 1500 bolt gun for hog hunting. It shoots Russian steel cased ammo about 2 inches at 100 yards. My handloads will shrink that down to sub MOA pretty consistently. So far, the most accurate loads are 125 grain FMJ bullets over 29 grains of CFE BLK, but a close second is Hornady Interlock 150 gr. soft points over 24.6 grains of that powder. The later is what I use on hogs. I do own 3 SKSs that I have only shot Russian steel case out of as they are not scoped and one of them will shoot one inch groups at 50 yards pretty consistently.
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H4895 usually has lower pressures than most powders with similar velocity. It is a very versatile powder.
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I think H4895 is a bit dirtier than Varget, but not by much.
They are both 'extreme powders' and very temperature insensitive.
Varget changes velocity 4 fps across 0 to 125 degrees F and H4895 changes 8 fps.

CFE223 is a versatile powder and keeps down copper fouling but is very temperature sensitive. It changes on the order of 155 fps over the same temperature range.

If you want to try a temperature insensitive anti-copper fouling powder that is pretty clean I would recommend IMR4166 Enduron powder. It is not as insensitive as Varget orH4895, but changes only 20 fps across the 0 to 125 fps temperature range.
It is in the same burn range as Varget and H4895 and I find that it is very accurate in my .308s.
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I think H4895 is a bit dirtier than Varget, but not by much.
They are both 'extreme powders' and very temperature insensitive.
Varget changes velocity 4 fps across 0 to 125 degrees F and H4895 changes 8 fps.

CFE223 is a versatile powder and keeps down copper fouling but is very temperature sensitive. It changes on the order of 155 fps over the same temperature range.

If you want to try a temperature insensitive anti-copper fouling powder that is pretty clean I would recommend IMR4166 Enduron powder. It is not as insensitive as Varget orH4895, but changes only 20 fps across the 0 to 125 fps temperature range.
It is in the same burn range as Varget and H4895 and I find that it is very accurate in my .308s.
I will look into 4166
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