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Old 01-05-2019, 12:59 AM
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Just about bought a T1x tonight but really want to see one of the new CZ actions first.
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I would like to nominate the Kimber 82-G action. I purchased 2 of these rifles from CMP. One of these was the "rusty" one to shoot and/or modify. Without going thru the previous incarnations, this is what I have wound up with:

It is mostly Kimber, 82-G action, SSV stock, and I grafted an Anschutz 1712 takeoff barrel by threading the receiver end and keeping the Anschutz chamber.
I posted about it HERE
Haven't had it outside yet but shoots very well indoors at 25 yards. I have a small trigger issue to work out. Needs a good adjustment, sometimes the firing pin follows the bolt on closing. Member PWNolan suggested it might need more sear engagement.
With a smaller scope it could qualify as a squirrel gun.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:50 AM
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Chris, very nice looking rifle. I guess the biggest issues with the 82G would be that they aren't readily available at a "tear down" price. Around me it seems like they are more in that $6-800 price range. The other issues I would have with my build criteria would be that its a single shot and threaded receiver. If im wrong on those two points correct me as I have not owned an 82G. Im not at all saying it isnt a great action and yours definately turned out very nice.
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Yes, grg, you are correct on all points. I would not go looking for an 82G action because they are scarce. I just kinda "evolved" into this build.

One that hasn't been mentioned is the Remington 5XX. 510's can be had at pawn shops, Boyd's makes several stocks, 513 barrels can be used for upgrade. I have built a couple. One included a 521 stock with a cut-down 513 steel buttplate, 510 action, 513 bolt, 513T barrel shortened to 22" and re-crowned like factory. Admittedly, these are a bit "primitive" by today's standards but can still shoot well.
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i like my kimber 82G but my choice for the topic would be a winchester 69
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:30 AM
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To the Remmy crowd. Thank you for your comments, I fully agree that the 581s are very accurate rifles. the 581 has two problems, at least mine has (1) the bolt stop is a weak link and the spring loaded stop fails and as one retracts the bolt you end up with the entire bolt in hand. (2) Remington over the years that that rifle was in production made changes on how the bolt handle is attached to the bolt. some were screwed on(better ones) towards end of production they went to induction bronze welds. I have a 581 with a sheared off bolt handle. still trying to get it fixed . there is very little purchase, little steel where handle enters bolt body. only remedy for this example would be a tig weld.
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Hi guys,

I'd either use the Mauser DSM 34/Mm410b action (the "B" series), or the Kimber K22 action (which was based on the Mauser). I'd choose it because it has controlled-round feed and has a timeless quality.

For a look at my ideal .22 sporting rifle, have a look at this Dorleac and Dorleac rifle:

https://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/proj...ction/?lang=en

I've posted it elsewhere, but...

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EDIT: My apologies - I forgot about the"production" part. Sadly, both the Mauser and the Kimber are no longer made.

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Old 01-15-2019, 07:47 AM
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That D&D is a beautiful action. I have a feeling that the price would take it out of the repeatability build criteria for a lot of people. I missed what the cost is, could you say what it was please? As I said in my opening post I would love to know if there is a inexpensive, quality built repeater action in the custom market.
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Awesome rifle, which just shows that if you have the money, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:38 PM
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Well im back on this. I will be going down to Tulsa this November so will be looking for a donor action. I have ideas in my head of the scope bases, rings, barrel and stock that I want to build. I have to get this narrowed down to the action I want.
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ULA hands down best repeater action out there for a custom build light hunting rifle.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:24 AM
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I've wondered lately about using the Remington 504. I have never held one, let alone shot one. But what I've read is that the action is borderline massive, it has a good trigger that is adjustable, and owners seem to really appreciate the stock. This only leaves upgrading the barrel, which is said to be this model's weakness in the first place. Any thoughts ?
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:15 PM
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I agree the 504 looks good, just don't see them around. Going to Tulsa so may have to see if I find one.
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I really like the Win 52's for building up a cheap custom rifle, but the days of finding beaters for cheap money are sadly over unless you are extremely lucky, IMO. But there is an alternative. The H&R Model 12's were I believe, a copy of the 52's and are close to on par for accuracy and trigger. And you can still find them for a somewhat reasonable price at times....
Seems like turning down the barrel to sporter dimensions wouldn't be too difficult and fitting a new stock to one would be a fairly straightforward proposition to end up with a very accurate and handsome sporter on par with a 52....

I also like the early Remington 5teen rifles as donors. There are tons and tons of them available at gun shows, pawn shows, LGS shelves, etc.. for cheap money. There is a guy at one of the gun shows I go to who has started customizing these just to fill his retirement hobby time and he cuts the original barrels to octagon barrels and they are really cool looking when he gets done. A replacement stock with some nice wood and you have a pretty nice little sporter that will shoot about as well as you can. Only one shortcoming with these and I have never figured out how to overcome it yet- they have lousy triggers on most of them and they aren't very adjustable. I'm not aware of any aftermarket triggers that fit them either- if anyone knows of any, these are a huge class of available rifles that could be first class custom sporters... IMO

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Old 10-13-2019, 05:30 PM
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Bob I just sold a H&R M12 a little while ago that was the best 100yd shooter I have ever had. Awsome trigger and functioned flawlessly but I do want a repeater. If Martini didnt shoot so well I would not have gotten rid of it.
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