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Old 10-07-2018, 07:33 AM
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Apparently a very easy choice, many people think: no more then $ 200 and that's all.

When I say 22 I mean ammunitions from 22 short to 22 HV, shooting at distances from 20 to 200 yards. With good and low light.

About magnifications I'm thinking a versatile 3-9x50 or 3-12x56, but I will be happy to read your advices.

And now the most difficoult choices:
- balistic turrets or balistic reticle like Mil-dot or new ones?
- reticle position on the first or second plane?
- illuminated recticle or not?

About budget I say $ 1000, but I'm flexible.

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Old 10-07-2018, 07:52 AM
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Sightron Slll 8-3256 would be my choice at that $ range. MOA2 reticle like this CLICK ME

I am a SFP guy and think that is up to you. I would shy away from illuminated reticles.

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Old 10-07-2018, 08:44 AM
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Hi Jester560, why so much magnification for a 22?
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:57 AM
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Apparently a very easy choice, many people think: no more then $ 200 and that's all.

When I say 22 I mean ammunitions from 22 short to 22 HV, shooting at distances from 20 to 200 yards. With good and low light.

About magnifications I'm thinking a versatile 3-9x50 or 3-12x56, but I will be happy to read your advices.

And now the most difficoult choices:
- turret adjustment or special recticle like Mil-dot or new ones?
- recticle position on the first or second plane?
- illuminated recticle or not?

About budget I say $ 1000, but I'm flexible.

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Old 10-07-2018, 09:38 AM
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See my reply to 1dogdown
I have seen it, it could be a good choice for shots at 50 yards.
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Old 10-07-2018, 09:39 AM
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I have a Vortex HST in Mildot. I hit out to 250 yards using a Savage bolt action trainer..


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Old 10-07-2018, 10:03 AM
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Sightron Slll 8-3256 would be my choice at that $ range. MOA2 reticle like this CLICK ME

I am a SFP guy and think that is up to you. I would shy away from illuminated reticles.
Nice for longer shots and doubles as a spotting scope for close range work.
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Old 10-07-2018, 10:13 AM
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I've had higher magnification scopes, but my .22 rifles currently sport Primary Arms fixed 6x ACSS scopes. The BDC reticle is tuned for .22lr HV ammo, but you can learn to use it for lower velocity ammo (although it only goes to 200 yards with HV). It can be had for just over $100 from optics planet on the right days, regular price is $119 IIRC.

EDIT: Crap, I misread the budget. They have a version with better glass for $289 or so. I'll be no help in this one though, as none of my scopes are anywhere near that expensive.

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Old 10-07-2018, 10:35 AM
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...why so much magnification for a 22?
Magnification should be dictated by the size of the target you use, how far away it is, and how precisely you need to place the shot, not the cartridge in use.

First determine the size of the target you are trying to hit.... not the whole target but the size of the 10-ring or bull's eye that you are trying to hit.... then try this experiment:

Get a sheet of paper and a black marker. Draw a dot the size of the target and blacken it in... not a hollow circle. Hang your new target on the back fence or an outside wall of the house. Now back away from your target until it looks the way you want your target to look when you are looking at it through a scope 100m away. Cup your hand to make a tube and look at it through there, or use the cardboard tube out of a toilet paper roll.

Okay, how far away did you get before the target got too hard to see to your satisfaction? 7m? 20m? Let's say you managed to get 10m away. 100m / 10m = 10x --> you will need a 10x scope to get that view of your target at 100m (assuming decent lenses, etc). Only 7m away? 100m / 7m = 14x --> you need a 14x scope to get that view from 100m.

Want to shoot that target at 200m? Same drill just different math: 200m / 10m = 20x scope. 200m / 7m = 28x scope. Etc.
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Old 10-07-2018, 10:59 AM
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I have a Vortex HST in Mildot. I hit out to 250 yards using a Savage bolt action trainer..
I'm not an expert in optical sights, balistic turrets and reticles, but for 22lr shots from 50 to 200 yards I'm thinking Mildot it could be one of the best.

Interesting this reticle Smith & Bender PL3.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:20 AM
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I've had higher magnification scopes, but my .22 rifles currently sport Primary Arms fixed 6x ACSS scopes. The BDC reticle is tuned for .22lr HV ammo, but you can learn to use it for lower velocity ammo (although it only goes to 200 yards with HV). It can be had for just over $100 from optics planet on the right days, regular price is $119 IIRC.

EDIT: Crap, I misread the budget. They have a version with better glass for $289 or so. I'll be no help in this one though, as none of my scopes are anywhere near that expensive.
I understand your point of view, until now I never used more then six magnification on the 22 rifles.

Is this one your scope? Very good video presentation.

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Old 10-07-2018, 11:28 AM
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Sightron SIII 6-24X with the Xmas tree reticle is what I have mounted on a Rem504 with a lilia barrel.
The reticle helps, but is not the primary means of getting out to 200+ for me.
I went with the Sightron because it has about 100moa of adjustment, which is enough to get you out there w/o a angled scope base.

I'd rather know your dope for various ranges with the ammo the gun is zero'd with..then guess with various hold overs. The reticle is nice for quick second shots or windage holds.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:49 AM
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Magnification should be dictated by the size of the target you use, how far away it is, and how precisely you need to place the shot, not the cartridge in use.

First determine the size of the target you are trying to hit.... not the whole target but the size of the 10-ring or bull's eye that you are trying to hit....
Thank you Sophia for your suggestions!

The 10-rings of my targets are about 2" and I shot them from 20 to 100 yards, about the biggest are 4" and I shoot them from 50 to 200 yards... when I get them

What do you think it should be the right magnification?
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What do you think it could be the right magnification?
It depends on how precise you want to be. Try the experiment.
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:21 PM
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It depends on how precise you want to be. Try the experiment.
Done!
I have used just one target of 3" and at 25 jards was good anough.
Your experiment tell me 100/25= 4X, then 200/25=8X, it means a good 3-9X50 or better 3-12x56 could be anough magnifications.
Decads of experience in shooting 22s have taught me something and your experiment confirmed it.

Thank you

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