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Old 07-09-2018, 11:59 AM
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I installed a Kidd Bold and Guide Rod kit in my 10/22.
The guide rod comes with a Standard spring, a + 10% spring, and a - 10% spring.

I would assume the -10 % would be the correct one but I just wanted to confirm.

what would be the correct spring to use with Standard Velocity ammo?

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Old 07-09-2018, 12:26 PM
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I have 3 10/22's with Kidd guides and springs, I use mostly CCI sv in all, have used nothing but the middle spring (white) and have had perfect function, 2 have Kidd bolts, one a Ruger CPC'd bolt, all run Kidd buffers, again zero malfunctions, I'd say just use the middle spring unless you are using either CCI Quiets or Stingers. The Kidd guides are very smooth, I also use Hornady 1-shot dry lubricant only, Your mileage may vary. Excellent guide/spring system, you're going to like it!
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Old 07-09-2018, 12:31 PM
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I'm running five 10/22s with Kidd Bolts, Rods, and STANDARD Springs. The Middle (Standard) has never malfunctioned once. Works 100% with CCI SS HPs CCI SV and CCI Mini-Mags. As always, YMMV...
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use the heaviest spring that will function reliably in order to keep the action from beating itself
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:17 PM
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I use the soft spring. I havent had luck with the heavy spring. The standard spring works ok in summer with std velocity, but in the colder weather they always function with the lower power with std velocity.
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I use the soft spring. I havent had luck with the heavy spring. The standard spring works ok in summer with std velocity, but in the colder weather they always function with the lower power with std velocity.

It does get quite cold here and I prefer shooting on colder days so the -10% may be a better choice.

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It does get quite cold here and I prefer shooting on colder days so the -10% may be a better choice.

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Use the standard spring unless it results in function problems. Standard velocity and match ammo varies some, but most of it, in most rifles, function fine with the standard spring.
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Just a reminder to smooth the inside of the receiver with scotchbrite or equivalent.
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Old 07-10-2018, 01:35 PM
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SV Ammo

With the bolt radius at the back, the guide rod polished and the inside of the receiver cleaned up the 10/22 should shoot standard velocity ammo with stock parts - been doing that since the mid 1980's before all these wonderful parts were ever made. Getting the 10'22 to run SV ammo is what opened up a market for guys like Kidd to start making parts.

I have the same set-up of Kidd parts as you and use the middle Kidd spring with no issues.
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stock Ruger spring and guide rod

My 10/22's both have had their bolts radiused several years ago, but even before that they ran fine with standard velocity .22 LR loads, with 40-grain bullets.

They would not, however, cycle CB longs. (29 grain bullet at only 725 fps).

And even today, with the bolts having the radius grind/polish job on the back bottom edge to round off that corner, and even with the standard recoil spring being very old and well used (on one gun it's 35 years old, and probably seen 75,000 rounds of use!) it WILL NOT cycle CCI's new "Quiet" .22LR ammo. It extracts the empty case from the chamber, barely, but doesn't slam it against the ejector to bounce it out of the gun's ejection port. So, the result is a stoveopipe or other kind of failure-to-eject.
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I use the middle Kidd spring and it functions 100%, the heavy will function 99% of the time in mine to (fails to pick up round from mag about 2 times per 100) , Qued bolt, smoothed inside receiver, Kidd rod and buffer.
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I have Kidd guide rods in 14 10/22's. Every one of them has the medium spring installed and they all function flawlessly with all ammo subsonic to HV. I never seen a reason to use any of the other ones. If I was able to run suppressed then I might switch one out.
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For any semi-auto gun, the strongest spring that will still allow proper function is the correct choice.
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One thing to mention.. a shell spit at the 2 to 3 o'clock direction is perfect. I use mostly the Std. weight spring (Wht.).

And.. as stated above smoothing the inside of the Receiver with ScotchBrite (AKA CrotchBrite) is the ticket.. also, no matter what temp range you shoot in the Hornady One Shot Dry Lube is the ticket.. no sludge (MUDD) and no worries about viscosity slowing the action down in cold temps like Oils.. In our cold winters I now run it in all my Shotguns for Ducks/Geese with 100% better cycling.
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