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Old 06-18-2018, 11:58 AM
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Old 06-18-2018, 12:05 PM
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:43 PM
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I have updated this listing and was wondering if you guys would live the Admins to make this a sticky for easier reference?

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You have my vote also.....this is very useful information in my opinion.....
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:37 AM
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:15 PM
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Hello,

I am adding serial number 77275 and 80472 to the above listing of fake and altered rifles. SN 77275 was auctioned at RIA in Dec 2017 Lot #364. Read the description VERY carefully and it references the rifle as "restored" and the "the added custom roll die "WINCHESTER" marking on the left side of the receiver, gallery style loading port" Who knows if the OB is original or not but the rifle certainly is most likely not original in any manner. https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...e-action-rifle

SN 80472 falls into the "highly suspect" category since it was offered on Gunbroker out of Henryetta, OK which is the same seller who was selling many of Charles Key's known fake guns. The preverbal walks like and quacks like then most likely a duck!!!

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Old 11-27-2018, 08:57 PM
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Old 11-29-2018, 04:57 PM
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There’s an interesting 61 “Special” on display for sale in GB at this very moment. Take a look. Hard to say if it’s pure or not. I’m currently waiting in more info and pictures. We’ll see if I get them.......Michael, you’re commitment to tracking the model 61 rifles is priceless. Thank you!

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Old 05-12-2019, 09:44 AM
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A 61 red letter is up on gunbroker no serial# mentioned or seen. Minimum bid $13,500. I don't know but the box it comes with looks familiar?
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Old 05-13-2019, 02:51 PM
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A 61 short only round barrel just showed up for sale on GI. I wouldn't touch it. Just has that suspicious look.
No serial number shown for some reason!!

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https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/826423754

My records show that this gun (#47009) was sold in July, 2016 for $3500 with NO mention of box, papers, etc.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:08 AM
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My records show that this gun (#47009) was sold in July, 2016 for $3500 with NO mention of box, papers, etc.
This is the third place I have seen the rifle. It was first seen on Guns International and listed by Dave Condon, then by Puglisi Guns out of Duluth and now from this guy in California. Which sales was in 2016? The box is an obvious fake and this guy always has faked boxes with his rifles.

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This is the third place I have seen the rifle. It was first seen on Guns International and listed by Dave Condon, then by Puglisi Guns out of Duluth and now from this guy in California. Which sales was in 2016? The box is an obvious fake and this guy always has faked boxes with his rifles.

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Old 09-07-2019, 02:24 PM
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Has anyone contacted the FBI or atf about this?
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:53 AM
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I have updated the list with SN 9316.

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