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Old 04-05-2018, 03:10 PM
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A while back I was given several cans of Goex black powder. I can use the 3Fg in my CVA 50 cal rifle, but am at a loss for what to do with the 4Fg. Is there any application for 4Fg besides priming flintlocks? Other than trying to sell it, I can't find anything else to do with it. Can any of you forum members suggest any safe uses for 4Fg? Reload rifle, pistol or shotgun shells? Blanks?
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Old 04-05-2018, 04:33 PM
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Worst case you can always spread it on your grass and flowers Ras. It's top quality fertilizer.

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Old 04-05-2018, 05:15 PM
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Trade it to someone with a flintlock, for the type powder you need.

It can also be used for blank rounds at 4th of July.
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You already have the powder. You just need a small horn...
Then you will have a perfect excuse to go get yourself an honest rocklock rifle
Trust me, you'll never look back
I say that knowing full well that all my old cap guns will be ****ed at me, again.

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Old 04-06-2018, 06:09 AM
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It might be desirable for some small caliber cartridge loading. Maybe even 45/70, because some of the old loading were so compressed it was like a solid mass in the case. I dont think there is any over pressure danger. Only issue (I think) is the powder leaking out the nipple holes.

It was a gift, maybe just pass along the favor.
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:20 AM
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It works well in a Ruger Old Army.
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Old 07-03-2018, 03:59 PM
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Worst case you can always spread it on your grass and flowers Ras. It's top quality fertilizer.

Frank
Given the price of BP, and the hoops one must jump through to buy it, I would never waste it as fertilizer. Find someone who needs it or just keep it on hand, it never goes bad and you may find a need for it down the road.
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A while back I was given several cans of Goex black powder. I can use the 3Fg in my CVA 50 cal rifle, but am at a loss for what to do with the 4Fg. Is there any application for 4Fg besides priming flintlocks? Other than trying to sell it, I can't find anything else to do with it. Can any of you forum members suggest any safe uses for 4Fg? Reload rifle, pistol or shotgun shells? Blanks?
You can use in modern BP repro pistols of sub-.36 cal: <15grn loads -- modern 3Fg isn't like the old "sporting powder" used to load the originals; if you use 3Fg in the .31cal pocket pistols they end up being really anemic. Sometimes modern quality controls work *against* you!

If you get the NAA Companion/Super Companion [.22cal BP mini revolvers], you're really wasting your time with anything bigger than 4F, since they just don't have big enough boiler rooms or long enough barrels to give 3F the room to burn effectively...

Just take a can to the range the next time you're shooting your charcoal burners & put a "4 Trade" sign on it: I'm sure you'll find someone who'll swap you some of your preferred alternative for it...
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When shooting .45 and .50 caliber ML's, a rule of thumb is to use 2F with X grains of powder. Or use 3F with something less than X grains.

I started out shooting .32 round ball rifles with about 25 grains of 3F. Then I decided to apply the above rule of thumb. Started using 15 grains of 4F with great shooting results and less fouling.

Another advantage was that I only needed a very small powder horn to use the 4F for squirrel hunting.
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with a .32-.36 cal rifle you can shoot darn near forever with a pound of ffff powder, cast your own bullets and shooting don,t get much cheaper.
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Can anybody offer a guess as to how much 4f to use in a 50 cal ML? I generally load 75 grains of 3f with a 175 gn patched round ball.
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Been shooting BP since the early 70s; I wouldnt use 4f in a caliber larger than 36.
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Been shooting BP since the early 70s; I wouldnt use 4f in a caliber larger than 36.
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Can anybody offer a guess as to how much 4f to use in a 50 cal ML? I generally load 75 grains of 3f with a 175 gn patched round ball.
I used 70 gr. of 2F behind .50 round ball. I mainly shoot .45's now.

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Been shooting BP since the early 70s; I wouldnt use 4f in a caliber larger than 36.
I wouldn't either. One good reason is that I wouldn't want to use up my supply of 4F.

However, IF ... you GREATLY reduced the charge, it probably would be OK. But, why would you if 2F and 3F are readily available?
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I use it when loading .22WCF cartridges for my Winchester Highwall. The brass is 22 Hornet fire-formed in the Winchester.
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