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Old 03-20-2018, 09:31 PM
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Anyone shot the new CCI VNT 17 HMR ammo yet?



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Has anyone shot much of this new CCI VNT Tipped 17 HMR ammo yet and if so how does it shoot and what are your thoughts of it???

I see Cabelas has it on sale for $9.99 and I almost picked up a couple boxes today while I was there but ended up passing on it. I don't really need any because I still have 3-4 cases of the Hornady 17 HMR ammo I need to shoot up and I don't want to start mix and matching this stuff and get all messed up on my POI with different ammo.

I see it shoots 100 fps faster like the CCI A17 ammo does. I think Eric has shot some of it and I'm hoping some of you here have as well and we can get a few different opinions on this stuff.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:38 PM
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I shot some of it. It's alright. Shot about as good as the a17 ammo. I have yet to find anything that outdoors hornady v max or cci tnt.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:58 PM
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I shot some of it. It's alright. Shot about as good as the a17 ammo. I have yet to find anything that outdoors hornady v max or cci tnt.
Interesting how this different ammo shoots different in everyone's guns. I've always had pretty good luck with the Hornady stuff shooting well in all my 17 HMR's and like I mentioned above, I've got quite a bit of it stock piled, but I'm always open to something better.

I finally got around to putting more than just a handful of rounds through my Savage HB A17 last week and I was pleasantly surprised at how well it shot the Hornady ammo. It shot that Hornady ammo well under MOA at 100 yards.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:03 PM
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I am a little disappointed in it. The A17 shoots better in both of my 17HMRs...an Anschtuz and a Sako. Most of my 17HMR ammo is good with the occasional flyer...about 1 out of 5 or less., but CCI TNT is the best for my rifles.
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:16 AM
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I can concur with the above posts about the VNT. I tried several in a controlled indoor range and the VNT was the same, if not just a little worse than the V-Max ammo in my 452. Also similar was my results with the TNT, it shot the best.
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Old 03-23-2018, 09:09 PM
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I tried it in my Anschutz 1517, it was the worst group I've ever shot. A17 and CCI 17 gr produce the best accuracy in my gun.
I'll try the rest of the box and make sure my results are the same, but so far, I'm not impressed.
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:45 PM
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I fired my VNT (lot # M07Y302) today for the first time, and like Keith, the results were terrible -- perhaps the worst I've ever seen from any 17HMR ammo I've tried. Maybe it was a bad lot. Keith -- Is yours the same lot#?

https://www.firearms4less.com/images/vnt_vs_tnt_1.jpg

https://www.firearms4less.com/images/vnt_vs_tnt_2.jpg

I was going to chrono it, but the accuracy was so bad that I didn't bother as I'm not using it if it was not at least as accurate as my go-to -- CCI TNT.

CZ 455 Varmint precision trainer w/ factory CZ 17HMR barrel (18.5" threaded for suppressor)

The circled number is the order in which I fired the group. VNT, then TNT, then VNT, then TNT.

50 yards:

VNT

0.675
0.762
0.645
0.620 (*see note below)
0.695
*avg w/o flyer on 4th group: 0.679"
avg w/ flyer on 4th group: 1.35"

Have a look at photos linked to above. One shot was over 3" away from the group.

TNT
.425
.295
.538
.278
.320
avg: 0.371"

100 yards:

For grins, I wanted to see what the VNT would do at 100 yards. I shot one group. Point of aim was center diamond. ONLY TWO SHOTS MADE IT ON PAPER. There seemed to be a different sound/report with some of the shots... maybe they were grossly over (or under) powered.

I immediately shot the lower right group with TNT -- measuring 0.92" -- about what I've been getting.
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:10 PM
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I shot a few hundred rounds of it when it first came out. It shoots well out of a Garrow 17HMR AR15 upper and an A17. We have killed a lot of ground squirrels with it and some big jackrabbits as well (on our way to/from SHOT).
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Old 03-27-2018, 12:08 AM
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VNT 17 did not shoot well

I obtained a couple boxes of CCI VNT lot MO7Y302. Test fired at 100 yards in a very serious manner with bags and repeatedly shot groups while alternating between TNT, TNT Green, A17, etc. Shot 5 and 10 shot groups over and over. TNT, for example, shot groups of 1.250" to .800" but VNT shot all over the target. VNT fliers were extreme. A 2" or more group @ 100 yards was about the norm with VNT if I did not count fliers but the fliers would be extreme and I could not even find some of the shots on the paper. The VNT ammo shot the worse groups compared to the other CCI products I shot.

I was really surprised and disappointed. Was hoping, just like most of us, that the VNT would be the next level of improved accuracy. At least for me, it was not.

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Old 03-27-2018, 10:37 PM
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No, my lot number doesn't match either ones listed. I did chrony some rounds, avg was 2732 fps. Speed doesn't really matter if you can't hit anything.
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If you'll notice in the photos of the paper targets in my previous post -- the holes with the TNT is noticeably 'cleaner' than the one with the VNT. The VNT produced more ragged holes. I'm not sure what to make of that but I doubt it's due to the tip of the bullet (i.e., one being plastic and one being an HP).

Perhaps the VNT bullet is wobbling/yawing some. That might explain the poor accuracy.
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Bought a box last night, Will give them a try today and report back.
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:48 AM
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For grins, I wanted to see what the VNT would do at 100 yards. I shot one group. Point of aim was center diamond. ONLY TWO SHOTS MADE IT ON PAPER. There seemed to be a different sound/report with some of the shots... maybe they were grossly over (or under) powered.
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oh my. That might be worse than Winchester 17HMR.
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Old 03-29-2018, 08:33 AM
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hoping, just like most of us, that the VNT would be the next level of improved accuracy. At least for me, it was not.

Why is this not a surprise?
It's 17hmr being manufactured by CCI.
Pretty much the same results as all the rest of their rimfire products.

Yet again, I reiterate, buy or borrow a ballistic chronograph.
Use it when shooting for precision or testing any ammunition.
It helps to explain all that vertical spread and lack of quality control on the CCI line.
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:50 AM
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hoping, just like most of us, that the VNT would be the next level of improved accuracy. At least for me, it was not.

Why is this not a surprise?
It's 17hmr being manufactured by CCI.
Pretty much the same results as all the rest of their rimfire products.

Yet again, I reiterate, buy or borrow a ballistic chronograph.
Use it when shooting for precision or testing any ammunition.
It helps to explain all that vertical spread and lack of quality control on the CCI line.
I have a chronograph. I use it. There is no "match" grade 17 HMR ammo -- but I've tested tons of it from all the manufacturers/labels, and the best accuracy I've found is with CCI TNT -- as have many others have here. CCI is the best accuracy I have found with 17HMR (TNT -- not VNT). So while CCI is not making match grade ammo -- they are, in fact, making the most accurate 17 HMR ammo (in my experience).

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