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Old 11-02-2017, 10:20 PM
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Me, myself, & I ( )had been down this path before and "we" decided against this caliber on multiple occasions for multiple reasons, however just doing some browsing I stumbled across a current selling price of $586 for a "new" CZ 527 American in 222 Remington.

Since I am this on limited income, I needed funding which sort of fell in place by the sale of a 12 gauge O/U that I had no plans of using.

Anyway with the funds in hand, I went back to the website and the CZ 527 in question was still available, so I pulled the trigger on the transaction. It was interesting as the next day I looked again and the remaining stock was gone and being replaced with ones priced at $50 more. With no additional charges for shipping and an FFL dealer that only charges me $20 transfer fee, I felt good about the transaction. Most 527's locally are running an additional $125 (plus tax) so this seemed like the right thing to do.

I have a 527 Varmint in 204 Ruger and a Tikka T3 Hunter in 223 Rem (both of which I like), thus I could convince myself on adding the 222 Rem into my varmint category. Had a 221 Fireball been an option (at a similar price) I might have opted for one. With all the hype about new and upcoming calibers, I chose the 222 Rem as it was renowned for both accuracy and a great varmint round back in days gone by and with the CZ 527, I expect this will be a great combination.

I picked it up today along with a few rounds of Remington Express Rifle, 50 gr, PSP for initial sight-in work. I mounted a Vortex Diamondback HP 4x16-42 using the provided CZ rings which barely allow bolt clearance, but it will work. I also removed the stock from the action and cleaned up the thick oil residue coating the action. The action is just a bit gritty, but expect that will smooth out with some use. Maybe at the next cleaning I will take some steel wool to polish the action up a bit. I usually do that with all my CZ rimfires . . . not sure why I did not take the time to do that today.

No pictures yet . . . My neighbors get nervous when I haul my firearms out on the patio Besides that it was a cloudy day. The wood is just typical, nice CZ, but nothing exceptional

I do have one question for you CZ 527 experts - I researched but could not find any torque settings for the action screws on the 527. The longer rear screw has that steel sleeve so I just snugged them up by hand at this point. Anyone have the actual torque settings for the 527 action screws?

I will be working up loads, my local sources tell me Hodgdon 332 with a Hornady 50 gr VMax bullet is the most accurate. CF 223 & Varget may be a couple other options. I have both Remington & Federal Benchrest small rifle primers so will try out some of each. I will be using the Remington cases once fired and also have a 100 Winchester cases as a starting point. Anyone have any input on a 222 Rem load?

Thanks 527 users . . .
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:41 PM
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Congrats on the caliber. I had three .222's and never should have sold any of them. Sako Vixen, Remington 788, and Remington 700. (Also, a Rem 600 or 660 as I recall.) The 788 was the most accurate but it was barely so. The .222 did everything I needed done even though I thought I needed a .22-250 and a .243. My old school loads used 3031 and BL-C2 behind a 50 gr. Sierra. All moderate loadings. Shot under MOA at 200 yards on a calm day. Have fun with yours.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:25 AM
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rjferber sir congrats on getting a 527 in 222 that was my first 527 also I have since got a couple more. looking forward to your pictures

here are my three...back to front; 222, 22 Hornet and 17 Hornet


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Old 11-03-2017, 08:25 AM
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I had aCZ527 in 222 but was the Lux stock which I didn't like. It was very accurate though with anywhere from 18-19.5gr. Of IMR 4198 and 52-55gr bullets. That load is what I have been using for 30 yes, love the 222!
Great buy you will enjoy shooting it.
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:49 AM
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I have one of those 527's in .222 and really like it. Mine's an American. Still testing, but my best, most accurate, loads come from 4198 in the middle of the range 18-19.5 grains. Very accurate at 100 yards, mild recoil, sips rather than gulps powder. What's not to like?
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:32 PM
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What a nice rifle you have chosen. I`ve had several 222`s through the years and totally agree with the advice about IMR 4198. H322 is also very good, but I always felt like it could be a little peaky without caution. Mild 4198 loads with a quality 50 grain fb bullet should give you quarter inch groups at 100 yards. Pleasant shooting.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:45 PM
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... I will be working up loads, my local sources tell me Hodgdon 332 with a Hornady 50 gr VMax bullet is the most accurate....
on the H322 powder. R-P brass and Rem 7-1/2 primers. I like 4198 too, but the H322 meters much better.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:34 PM
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referber is looking for torque settings for the action screws on the 527.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:51 PM
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referber is looking for torque settings for the action screws on the 527.
No help there, on my end I am afraid. I usually go about 20 inch-lbs on a torque screw driver. Don't want to compress the wood. But this is not based on a published figure, it is just a carry over from rimfire, in my case. All just IME and IMHO. . .BTW, none of my .222's has appeared particularly sensitive to the torque of the action screws. Tighten and shoot.
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Old 11-05-2017, 02:44 PM
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I appreciate all the feedback on the 222 Rem loads, I will start with the H322 as I already have a small supply of that. Will keep other suggestions in mind if I am not satisfied with the results. On the torque settings the response (or lack there of) is expected as I had not seen much on the topic from previous threads on th 527 . . . In any caliber.

Thanks again . . .
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The .222 is indeed a classic. You can't go wrong. I have a Sako and love it. You can find loading data on line and even reduced loads to simulate the 22 hornet. I have a very slow twist in mine so 45 and 50 gr bullets are best, also it does not like boattails.
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rjferber: Reading your post reminded me of my groundhog hunting days here in southern Indiana years ago. I had purchased a very nice Anschutz model 153 in .222 Remington. I found that BLC2 powder and Sierra 50 gr. Spitzers were an ideal load. Not much groundhoggin these days, since someone brought coyotes in. They keep the groundhogs thinned out. Congrats on your CZ, that is a very nice combination.

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P.S. Not sure if BLC2 is still available, been years since I reloaded any.
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:02 PM
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Just a quick update - the CZ provided rings would not mount the scope properly even after a double lapping sessions. They seemed to bind the scope tube when tightened down (I must have tried a dozen times). So I ordered a set of "high" Warne 527 rings which I received last Friday and promptly mounted them without any issues. I am very pleased with the setup. I should contact CZ and let them know the rings had issues . . . but I'm not to concerned at this point and really have no need for any replacements.

I did get to the range Monday morning and shot 50 rounds so I would have some cases for reloading. (I also picked up a 100 new Winchester cases). Once the scope was sighted in I shot 20 rounds (in 5 shot groups) of both types of factory ammo I had and was impressed with both.

Remington Express Rifle PSP 50 grain 3,140 fps
Fiocchi Extrema Varmint V-Max 50 grain 3,250 fps

This is only a 50 yard indoor range with just a short shelf to shoot from so I could not use my new Caldwell Rock front rest & Protektor rear bag setup. I shot off my range bag which certainly allows for a lot of movement, but I was able to consistently get just under .5" groups mostly in a ragged hole or clover leaf pattern. I am looking forward to similar groups at 100 yards shooting from a solid bench and proper front & rear rests at the outdoor range.

I really like the 527 American in Remington 222 and am looking forward to a little heads up competition with my 527 Varmint in 204 Ruger, and my Tikka T3 Hunter in 223 Remington. This is my "varmint" hunting collection and looking forward to a what I hope to be a very close match.

Sorry I did not take any pictures of the groups but will update with my 204, 222, & 223 shoot-off when I get that completed.
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Old 12-06-2017, 05:07 AM
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I've had the same model for about 15 years. The 222 reminds me of the 308 in that it is an inherently accurate caliber. With the exception of a 55gr FMJ it shoots nearly every combination of brass, bullet, powder or primer under 1" at 100yds. I do recall Sierra 50gr SP shot the best in the past. Right now H4198 and the 40gr Varmintgeddon FBTP are doing very well producing 3/8" at 100.
When I bought mine there was some concern about the 223 overshadowing the 222 so I purchased a 223 take off barrel just in case the 222 brass supply dried up. A few years ago I found resizing 223 brass to 222 was doable. With around 300 "222.5" brass on hand, I doubt the take off barrel will ever get used.
Back to your original question. In all these years of shooting mine, I've never bedded the action nor paid much attention to the screw torque. I never has changed POI after tear down and re-assembly. It's not that I'm good, it's that the rifle is fool proof.
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referber is looking for torque settings for the action screws on the 527.
I havenít found my 527s to be very torque setting sensitive like some rifles. In fact I found the action screws to be scary loose on one of my rifle recently and it was still stacking bullets at 100 yards. I usually tighten mine around 20 inch pounds.
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