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Old 07-21-2019, 04:16 PM
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Hey, finally got a chance to try my new revolver, it's a single action 12 shot, (yes, 12 shot) .22lr Uberti Cattleman, sold by Taylor's & Co.

I fired 100 rounds of Remington Golden Bullets through it, and some CCI polymer coated HV's. Not a single misfire, kinda different cocking the hammer each time.
Used to keeping sights on target with my semi-autos. was shooting a 10 inch steel round target from 12 feet to about 25 feet, never did get the feel of the sights, elevation was easy, but left/right was shakey, maybe just me. hit 31 out of about
120 rounds.
Was a load of fun, maybe use a target next time that's bigger, so I can figure out the sights better.
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Old 07-21-2019, 05:44 PM
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Have the exact same model and love it. Yeah, no one ever accused Colt gutter sights of being match sights. The problem is losing that skimpy sight picture against a large bull or steel plate. I painted the front sight on mine and it helped.
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:32 PM
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i love my SAAs, sort of like a 1911 in your hand. You know when you have something diferent/unique.

i recently p/u a Uberti Drifter with the octagon barrel and then put the uberti 22LR conversion in it. havent had a chance to shoot it, but the conversion is unique with the rear sight part of the coversion.

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Old 07-26-2019, 07:45 PM
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Have the exact same model and love it. Yeah, no one ever accused Colt gutter sights of being match sights. The problem is losing that skimpy sight picture against a large bull or steel plate. I painted the front sight on mine and it helped.
Never thought of that, might try some whiteout on the front sight, nothing permanent, going to put my laser bore sight in it and see where the sights are as far as elevation.
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Old 07-28-2019, 11:25 AM
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I bought this 10 shot with adjustable sights & 2 cylinders for $137 in 7.5" Also have 2 12" & a 16" all with adj sights & all under $150ea, Lots of fun for little cost. I wish it were legal to put a butstock on the 16".
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:33 PM
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Gatcha beat !

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I bought this 10 shot with adjustable sights & 2 cylinders for $137 in 7.5" Also have 2 12" & a 16" all with adj sights & all under $150ea, Lots of fun for little cost. I wish it were legal to put a butstock on the 16".
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I got an eleven shot with 2.5 cylinders for 136.00 bucks ! Notice my nose is growing.....

All joking aside Flylo, i have three of the Cattleman Stallions, one of those has the two cylinders from the factory. I have a couple of the full size Cattlemen revolvers, one which has the 7.5 barrel and it is a handful. I wish I could get a magnum cylinder for the full size, but I don’t think they are available.

Shooting a Uberti .22 in either size is a hoot!

I lucked out and got a “new “ magnum cylinder for the Stallion size model off Gun Broker. I have got to get it fitted to one of my Stallions that was simply .22 when purchased. According to my calipers, I gotta take off a whopping 11 thousandths
off the front boss spacer to make fit as it should.

I have a cowboy holster for my Stallions, but I have no ambitions about “quick draw” as a skill.

Hope all is well Flylo !
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:36 AM
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Over 500 trouble free"FUN" rounds

I really love this 12 shot cattleman single action revolver by Uberti.
It is one great shooting gun.
Of course you need to compinsate a little because of the non-adjustablr sights but once you get to know where the bullets are hitting,
It is perfect at 30 feet.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:39 PM
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I thought the legal people said pistol to rifle was fine but not rifle to pistol. Also seeing that the barrel is 16" stuck on it you can't be caught with a short barrel with stock(SBR). It was always the guy adding the stock before changing the barrel to 16" that got people in trouble. I know there is one direction it legal and other isn't which always bothered me. There is a reason in the logic with how it is defined when the item was made, something about it was design to shoot with one hand or needing both. The legal definition of rifle v pistol. That was all thrown around when the makers started making ar style stuff and listing it as "other" as then it could become either. If it was made rifle it got stuck as but pistol I thought could be switched at any time or "other" the same.
So why you think you can't stock it? Did you ask and get a reply from BATFE?

I also thought the rule of the 22Lr v 22Mag was you can shoot 22lr out of 22mag but not 22mag out of 22LR because the 22mag bullet is a little bigger and the mag barrel bore is bigger. Maybe being a 22mag all lead bullet it might swag down without pressure issue. That's why I also heard 22LR really not accurate out of the mag barrel as they slop around the barrel going out.

Any thought on these two topics?

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Old 08-22-2019, 09:44 PM
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Accuracy, bore size, and the real experience.

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I thought the legal people said pistol to rifle was fine but not rifle to pistol. Also seeing that the barrel is 16" stuck on it you can't be caught with a short barrel with stock(SBR). It was always the guy adding the stock before changing the barrel to 16" that got people in trouble. I know there is one direction it legal and other isn't which always bothered me. There is a reason in the logic with how it is defined when the item was made, something about it was design to shoot with one hand or needing both. The legal definition of rifle v pistol. That was all thrown around when the makers started making ar style stuff and listing it as "other" as then it could become either. If it was made rifle it got stuck as but pistol I thought could be switched at any time or "other" the same.
So why you think you can't stock it? Did you ask and get a reply from BATFE?

I also thought the rule of the 22Lr v 22Mag was you can shoot 22lr out of 22mag but not 22mag out of 22LR because the 22mag bullet is a little bigger and the mag barrel bore is bigger. Maybe being a 22mag all lead bullet it might swag down without pressure issue. That's why I also heard 22LR really not accurate out of the mag barrel as they slop around the barrel going out.

Any thought on these two topics?
The school of thought is all over the place on this subject. The standards for the U.S and the European makers can

be find here :

CZ follow CIP (European) standards for manufacturing firearms, whereas US companies follow SAAMI/ANSI standards. There are differences between the two specifications for 22 LR barrel dimensions.

Following are the CIP minimum specifications for barrel dimensions:

22 LR - CIP
Bore: 5.38 mm (0.2118 in)
Groove: 5.58 mm (0.2197 in)

22 WMR - CIP
Bore: 5.56 mm (0.2189 in)
Groove: 5.69 mm (0.2240 in)

And for comparison, here are the SAAMI minimum specifications for barrel dimensions:

22 LR - SAAMI
Bore: 0.217 in (5.51 mm)
Groove: 0.222 in (5.64 mm)

22 WMR - SAAMI
Bore: 0.219 in (5.56 mm)
Groove: 0.224 in (5.69 mm)

As you can see, the 22 WMR dimensions are common to both CIP and SAAMI standards. However, for 22 LR, the CIP standard specifies a minimum bore dia. ~0.005 in smaller than SAAMI, and a minimum groove dia. ~0.004 in smaller.

Please note: the above information was borrowed from a fellow poster in a different thread.


There may be some difference in the actual bore sizes of the individual

firearm, of course, and you are talking about only a couple of thousands

between the .22LR and the .22 magnum bore specifications.

My personal experience is the accuracy does not suffer in my Ruger

convertibles. I have heard other people have different experiences.

The mighty .22 LR and the .22 magnum convertible weapon is just like the dedicated

.22LR and the dedicated .22 magnum in the single action revolvers when it comes

to the ammunition they shoot best.

You have to find what shoots best in your particular firearm.

It is important to note that in the rimfire single action revolver the bullet

has to travel a lot before it engages the rifling. That is detrimental to real

super fine accuracy in itself. Anschutz and some other .22 rifle makers actually

engrave the bullet when a round is chambered.

Your mileage may vary.

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Old 08-22-2019, 10:15 PM
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Uberti Rocks !!

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Have the exact same model and love it. Yeah, no one ever accused Colt gutter sights of being match sights. The problem is losing that skimpy sight picture against a large bull or steel plate. I painted the front sight on mine and it helped.
I have some of six shot old model four click .22 Uberti revolvers, in the full size

Cattleman, and the smaller Stallion. I would like to have the 12 shot model, it

is next on my gift to myself list.....They are a joy to shoot, and the quality is

awesome in the fit and finish. Shooting the single action .22 revolver can

be addicting.! The twelve shot model like you have is definitely on my radar !

How many single action .22 revolvers do we need ? Just one more.

Thanks for the tip on painting the front sight, that made it easier for my old eyes to

get my sight picture on the money.
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Old 08-23-2019, 04:12 PM
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Thanks, never knew the american v Eur thing before. you think they would stick to one figure no matter where, oh well metric v standard again. I didn't think much about the little difference between them but somebody mention that most 22Mag stuff is jacket and can cause pressure issues in the "smaller" 22 barrel, if it was all lead would probably swag down but again how much pressure? That was why I mention doing 22Mag into a 22LR MIGHT be an issue. As far as accuary of 22LR in a 22Mag barrel, my thought was the heal would expand to "fill" up but then as you said most engrave the rifing to get best results, assume LR wouldn't get that done enough to hold good "target" grade results, coke can yeah.

Just wanted other people thought on the pressure thing as I hate seeing people getting hurt on shooting bigger through smaller barrels.

Thanks learned something new as for the info about difference of barrel size v country
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:21 AM
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22LR is the more affordable fun when your "POOR"

I also have a Heritage arms 22LR /& Mag. and it is a really great gun.
I have at least 5,000 or more 22LR and another 1,000 or so Magnums through it and it is as tight as the day I bought it.
It has two cylinders, one LR, & one for Magnum.
I do have a few other 22 pistols I like :
A S&W Victory
A Ruger lite
A COLT 1911 22LR
And my new one is the Uberti 12 round cattleman
and a few 22 rifles
I still have the single shot little Winchester 22 I got for my 8th. birthday.( AND I STILL SHOOT IT ONCE IN A WHILE)
I'm 76 and a disabled veteran and the 22 is just more affordable and still a lot of fun to shoot with.
Ronnie

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I know most revolver buffs subscribe to the adage 'leave the hammer on an empty cylinder' when carrying a revolver holstered and loaded. My Cattleman .22lr has the retracting firing pin, doesn't contact unless trigger is pulled back, so Uberti says you can carry with all cylinders loaded and still be safe. I still felt uneasy with all 12 rounds in the cylinder, so I ordered the old style cylinder pin from Taylor and Co. to replace the standard pin. It has the dual grooves, so you can lock it in further and prevent the hammer from coming full forward. My revolver has no 1/4 cock, just 1/2 and full, so I have to release the pin to the second notch on 1/2 cock when ready to fire the gun, then full cock to fire. Maybe just being overly cautious, but makes me feel better carrying it loaded with all 12.
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Going to save the nice walnut grip, got a black plastic one on ebay, looks good, I think...

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