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Old 08-11-2019, 11:31 AM
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Using a little mirror I got a look at the chamber. With a light at the muzzle and a 2.5x headband magnifier I was able to see pretty well.

The photo isn't very good but it gives an idea of what I was looking at.

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Old 08-11-2019, 03:54 PM
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This is my 1710 D HB manufactured in 2001. I bought is used late last year and am still trying to figure out what works best. It does not like a dirty barrel so I run a patch with a little bit of Kroil through every 30 or 40 rounds. The scope is a Mueller 8-32x44 target.

Gee, I wish the wood on mine looked like that!
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Old 08-15-2019, 10:47 AM
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I have just finished testing my 1710 DHB using 10 different brands of ammo. The average of 5 five shot groups are in order of best to worst at 50 yards are:

1 Lapua Center-X
2 Lapua Biathon
3 Lapua Mida +
4 Eley Tenex EPS
5 SK Rifle Match
6 Fiocchi Offical 320
7 Wolf Match Extra
8 Eley Match
9 RWS R 50
10 CCI SV

I want to shoot another set of groups to verify original results before stating group size. However the best average to date is 0.240". The stock screws are currently torqued to approximately 19.2 inch pounds.

An average of 5 five shot groups of 0.240Ē at 50 yards is impressive!
When shooting casually with good ammo my gun will typically shoot in high 0.3s at 50Y. With cheaper ammo (SK+) it will still be under 0.5Ē.
When I say shooting casually, I mean no lot selection, no playing with torque settings, shooting off a bipod and outdoor with some wind (like the below target shot with Eley black. I only had one box).

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Old 08-15-2019, 12:41 PM
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Every time I've introduced Kriol to any of my rimfire rifles (after running multiple dry patches down the barrel to mop it out), it has taken about an entire box of ammo to get it to group again.
Far Far more rounds than normal.

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Not at all saying not to use it, but I would not use it for general cleaning.

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Old 08-15-2019, 04:37 PM
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If that's the case, I would say don't use it in the barrel
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:53 PM
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Oh you can use it because it can help remove a stubborn lead deposit by getting underneath it a bit.

But other than that I don't find it to be much of a cleaner.
My Hawkeye Borescope reveals at lot about what works, and doesn't work.

Now any oil will remove some of the crud in a bore, but that's not Kroils strength.
It is however an excellent penetrating oil.

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Old 08-16-2019, 01:02 PM
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I had been using Balistol, just because I had some in my range bag. It usually took about 10 shots after cleaning with it to get a group. After using Kroil, again because I happened to have some in my range bag, I found it only took two shots to get a group. A dry patch has never worked well in this gun. I'm always open to suggestions also.

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Old 08-31-2019, 11:27 PM
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Today I shot a different lot of Center X. This was shot from a front rest, outdoor with a light 5mph cross wind.
I started with a clean barrel at 50Y.
After that I cleaned the barrel (with wet patch and bronze brush) and shot the same Center X lot at 100Y.
For both 50 and 100Y Iím not taking into account the first 10 shots from a clean barrel.

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Today I shot this 100Y target with the 1710HB and Center X. It averages 0.6507" for the last six 5 shot groups.

This is the best target I've ever shot with any 22lr rifle.

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Old 10-05-2019, 09:31 PM
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Where I shoot, that would be considered an outstanding target for 22LR at 100 - We all know what conditions can do for rim fire accuracy (and the shooter's ego) at 100 - Good Job

Strange as it may seem, I have never done anything spectacular with CX in any of the 1710's I've owned. I have one lot here right now that I'm using as foulers after barrel cleaning
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:23 PM
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Where I shoot, that would be considered an outstanding target for 22LR at 100 - We all know what conditions can do for rim fire accuracy (and the shooter's ego) at 100 - Good Job

Strange as it may seem, I have never done anything spectacular with CX in any of the 1710's I've owned. I have one lot here right now that I'm using as foulers after barrel cleaning
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Truth be told, this rifle hasnít been stellar at 50Y. As you can see from the previous targets in this thread, it typically shoots in the 0.3s.

The weather was pretty good on that day, but I still wasnít able to get good groups at 50Y. Towards the end, I started shooting it at 100Y. I never expected to get this kind of accuracy with the gun. I was seriously considering selling this rifle, but after shooting my best 100Y average ever, I think Iíll keep it. I just need to work on my 50Y groups.
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