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Old 05-03-2019, 03:19 PM
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RWS 22 magnum range report



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Ordered some of the current RWS 22WMR ammo from Anschutz, the 40 gr JSP, nominal velocity 595m/s, about 1952 f/s. Tried it in two rifles, a Cooper Classic 57M, and a Remington 547C. 50 yards, very good conditions, benched. Target shown is from the Cooper. Much more consistent, over 50 rounds, than any other 22WMR loads I have tried. The center two sighter bulls, 1 and 8, are CCI Maxi-Mag 40 gr JHP for comparison. Last 3 bulls on the upper right, threw one flyer that really opened up the groups. The Rem 547C was only slightly better than other WMR loads.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:04 PM
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Thanks for posting those targets. Interesting to be sure and every rifle and ammo combination will shoot different. It will be a question if you think spending all the dollars per box is worth the accuracy gained --if any over the current available ammo.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:25 AM
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At first look, I was surprised to find the RWS 22wmr is packed loose like bulk ammo.
50 cartridges in a cardboard tray. No protection from bumps or packing weights.
Not even a plastic rack to hold each cartridge individually as is used in the 22lr by RWS.
At a dollar a cartridge you'd think they'd be packed like match centerfire.
Not a good sign...


Looking at the results above, 50 yard groups, I'm not seeing any difference in accuracy
from what is produced by CCI 22 wmr at a fifth of the cost per round.
Oh well, 50 at 200 yards across a chronograph will tell the story, later today.

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Old 05-04-2019, 12:42 PM
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RWS 22wmr 40 grain JSP at 200 yards...

230 fps ES, 10 inches of vertical spread.
At a dollar a shot, nothing to brag about.
I can do the same with CCI for 20 cents a cartridge.

Oh well, write it off as an educational expense.
At least now I can offer an opinion based on experience.
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Old 05-04-2019, 01:31 PM
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RWS 40 grain fmj 22wmr at 200 yards

ES in excess of 270 fps and 12 inches of vertical spread.
RWS made their profit from my ignorance.
Now I know, there is no match quality 22wmr,
only close range hunting ammunition.
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Old 08-19-2019, 02:47 PM
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RWS 40 grain fmj 22wmr at 200 yards

ES in excess of 270 fps and 12 inches of vertical spread.
RWS made their profit from my ignorance.
Now I know, there is no match quality 22wmr,
only close range hunting ammunition.
Yep, gotta make your own match! But a 22mag @ 200 yrds??
I guess we view the cartridge a little different! I view the 22 mag as a 22 lr but with alot more punch for bigger critters. I roll my own & do most my testing @ 75yrds..
I agree with ya though, that is a ridiculous price for wmr ammo! There is no way im paying that when I know I can make better ammo alot cheaper..
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:46 AM
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a 22mag @ 200 yrds??

I know, right? Who in his right mind would use rimfire at such a ridiculous distance.


Actually it is applicable for the purposes of testing the ammunition.
Time of flight amplifies cartridge defects allowing better comparisons of results.
Dents, dings, irregular brass dimensions, tilted bullet seating affect trajectories.
Testing at short range doesn't allow enough time of flight to see those problems.
Then there's the half third rule of rimfire...half the distance produces one-third the spread.

The RWS 40 grain fmj 22wmr produced 12 inches of spread at 200 yards.
What can be expected at lesser distances? Apply the rule...

200 yards = 12 inches
100 yards = 4 inches
50 yards = 1.3 inches
25 yards = 0.4 inches

That is what you can expect for the full box of RWS 22wmr.
50 shots will create that size spread pattern from that rifle under similar conditions.
Handy method to predict results from most any rimfire ammunition.
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:05 PM
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Yep, gotta make your own match! But a 22mag @ 200 yrds??
I guess we view the cartridge a little different! I view the 22 mag as a 22 lr but with alot more punch for bigger critters. I roll my own & do most my testing @ 75yrds..
I agree with ya though, that is a ridiculous price for wmr ammo! There is no way im paying that when I know I can make better ammo alot cheaper..
Lots of us out here like to stretch the .22 rimfire (be it LR or WMR or .17HMR) to the limits.
No difference that stretching the .308 out to a 1000yds when most hunters won't take anything over 250yds.
When all conditions are good I can get 2.5" groups out of my Savage WMR out to 150m...and regularly take ground squirrels (what we call gophers in Canada) at that distance.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:42 PM
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I have an Anschutz 1720 and I'd pay $1 a shot for ammo that can shoot 2.5" groups at 150.
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Browning T-Bolt 50 yards... Cost me $1.22 to shoot that group




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Nice group!
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Old 08-22-2019, 01:30 PM
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RWS 40 grain Full Metal Jacket 22 wmr rated 1952 fps

455 SOF, Feddersen stubby, Sinclair





281 fps ES...nope, not worth a dollar a shot.

50 bucks to shoot that group.

Yep, still easily entertained.
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:22 PM
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a 22mag @ 200 yrds??

I know, right? Who in his right mind would use rimfire at such a ridiculous distance.


Actually it is applicable for the purposes of testing the ammunition.
Time of flight amplifies cartridge defects allowing better comparisons of results.
Dents, dings, irregular brass dimensions, tilted bullet seating affect trajectories.
Testing at short range doesn't allow enough time of flight to see those problems.
Then there's the half third rule of rimfire...half the distance produces one-third the spread.

The RWS 40 grain fmj 22wmr produced 12 inches of spread at 200 yards.
What can be expected at lesser distances? Apply the rule...

200 yards = 12 inches
100 yards = 4 inches
50 yards = 1.3 inches
25 yards = 0.4 inches

That is what you can expect for the full box of RWS 22wmr.
50 shots will create that size spread pattern from that rifle under similar conditions.
Handy method to predict results from most any rimfire ammunition.
No its it cool its your thing! Hard to find ideal conditions though hu?
Your right about the other things as well! When I load this rnd I take the extreme bullet weight variable out & trim the cases to a uniform length so that I get a more uniform bullet crimp. (Using a non-modified Lee 223 factory crimp die for crimping)
FWIW, Its not hard to get bullets seated straight in a straight wall case! So bullet R.O is usually very good. I was buying centerfire bullets to load, but decided to just work with whats there because its much cheaper just to take the ammo apart & fix the problems & re-assemble. Of course by selection of bullet weight, you are stuck with some plinking or sight in rnds! But hey you always need those anyhow hu.
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Old 09-07-2019, 06:07 PM
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Nice group!

Pretty sure that was with the Fed 50gr HP... that stuff shoot pretty consistently... After they cut the Soybean out back Iíll step off 100 paces and try a group
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Ordered some of the current RWS 22WMR ammo from Anschutz, the 40 gr JSP, nominal velocity 595m/s, about 1952 f/s. Tried it in two rifles, a Cooper Classic 57M, and a Remington 547C. 50 yards, very good conditions, benched. Target shown is from the Cooper. Much more consistent, over 50 rounds, than any other 22WMR loads I have tried. The center two sighter bulls, 1 and 8, are CCI Maxi-Mag 40 gr JHP for comparison. Last 3 bulls on the upper right, threw one flyer that really opened up the groups. The Rem 547C was only slightly better than other WMR loads.
Thanks for posting. Makes me feel better about my Ruger Americanís and my CZ455ís .
Not saying my groups are better , some are , some arenít . Difference being my groups cost less to shoot . Most consistent ammo Iíve found has been Hornady 30g. V-Max for about $10 box .
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