22 short bolt and magazine combo? - RimfireCentral.com Forums

Go Back   RimfireCentral.com Forums > >

Notices

Join Team RFC to remove these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-12-2019, 02:46 PM
iceweazel
US Navy Veteran

Join Date: 
Jan 2005
Location: 
Central OH
Posts: 
103
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
22 short bolt and magazine combo?



Log in to see fewer ads
Many years ago I purchased a modified MK2 bolt and a couple of magazines that were meant to run 22 shorts. (back when they were more plentiful and inexpensive)

Just came upon the parts over the weekend while cleaning out some older stuff in a cabinet.

Not sure if there was any interest in looking at something like this. I probably got them from a member on the old Ruger rimfire board, or even further back when we all had modems and used to wait days upon end for messages to go across country. I am pretty sure this pre-dates RFC, but it might not.

Wasn't sure if anyone wanted to see it, I recall the mags are a bit roughly made.
Been forever since I used it. Seems all oiled up and I'm not even sure where to buy shorts anymore locally. If there is interest I'll probably try and wrangle a couple boxes of shorts somewhere and see if it works at all. I don't have a stock mk2 anymore, so can't say how it will run. I don't recall it EVER being 'great'.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-12-2019, 03:11 PM
Test_Engineer

Join Date: 
Nov 2014
Location: 
On a Colorado glacier
Posts: 
1,942
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
I'd like to see it!

I've seen some bolts made/modified to run CCI Quiets, so I bet the Shorts bolt mods are very similar. But I've never seen a magazine made/modified to run Shorts. That would be very interesting to me. I can feed one or maybe two (max) Longs off the top of a regular mag before it jams. The shorts would need very different feed lips and follower I would think.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-12-2019, 10:30 PM
22/silencer's Avatar
22/silencer

Join Date: 
Mar 2012
Location: 
USA
Posts: 
132
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
i have one in my suppressed mk11. run just as good as the shorts allow.

Greg
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 08-21-2019, 01:56 PM
iceweazel
US Navy Veteran

Join Date: 
Jan 2005
Location: 
Central OH
Posts: 
103
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
So I took a couple of so-so photos. Did a little searching and found a couple things I had forgotten:

-it was originally from Volquartsen. Hadn't remembered that.

-seems I am missing a part! Seems these came with a replacement mainspring that I do not appear to have, or I've misplaced it (might be the latter, never know)
Might explain why I always thought it was so-so.

-mags were quoted in some online things I see as being 5 round only... THAT I recall having a hell of a time with.
My ancient instructions are just a crappy printout that nowhere mentions the mags being 5 round.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_20190817_164029.jpg (84.3 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_20190817_164056.jpg (79.7 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_20190817_164303.jpg (72.7 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_20190817_164315_1.jpg (65.2 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_20190817_164710.jpg (112.0 KB, 4 views)

Last edited by iceweazel; 08-21-2019 at 02:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-21-2019, 02:03 PM
iceweazel
US Navy Veteran

Join Date: 
Jan 2005
Location: 
Central OH
Posts: 
103
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Couple of images I found from some online auctions. Leads me to believe there were multiple versions of this product over the years.

I hit a couple stores the other day and no-one had any shorts for sale. Only ones I have left are old gold-box Imperials from the 70s/80s. Probably not the best candidate to test this out. Cabelas told me they normally stocked Golden Bullets in short but were out.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg wm_2629148.jpg (33.9 KB, 48 views)
File Type: jpg wm_2629151.jpg (33.3 KB, 49 views)
File Type: jpg 21628373_2.jpg (90.4 KB, 5 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-21-2019, 02:40 PM
Test_Engineer

Join Date: 
Nov 2014
Location: 
On a Colorado glacier
Posts: 
1,942
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Thanks for the pics iceweazel. An interesting bit of Volquartsen history there.

The bolt and mainspring are about as I expected. The rod added in the front of the mag was expected too. But I have a other couple questions about the mags.

1) Is the little tab brazed onto the left feed lip there to hit the extracting shell and cause ejection to occur earlier than would happen with the stock ejector?

2) It appears the mag spring sits so it lifts the follower in the middle of the follower button track. Is this spring a smaller diameter so it can fit in the middle like that?

Maybe you could post a pic of the modified follower also? It's hard to tell how it was made/modified while inside the shell. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-21-2019, 04:41 PM
iceweazel
US Navy Veteran

Join Date: 
Jan 2005
Location: 
Central OH
Posts: 
103
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Test_Engineer View Post
Thanks for the pics iceweazel. An interesting bit of Volquartsen history there.

The bolt and mainspring are about as I expected. The rod added in the front of the mag was expected too. But I have a other couple questions about the mags.

1) Is the little tab brazed onto the left feed lip there to hit the extracting shell and cause ejection to occur earlier than would happen with the stock ejector?

2) It appears the mag spring sits so it lifts the follower in the middle of the follower button track. Is this spring a smaller diameter so it can fit in the middle like that?

Maybe you could post a pic of the modified follower also? It's hard to tell how it was made/modified while inside the shell. Thanks!
haha. I actually lost a huge pile of photos from the weekend including a couple side by sides of the two followers and a mk2 follower. Let my youngest granddaughter (5) use the phone. Lost a pile of shots of the disection I did for her older sister's new Finnbiathlon I picked up recently, and the horror I found inside a Egyptian BRNO copy' stock. Not sure how she nuked them but I didn't lose them all at least.

I'll try and get some more shots up and see if I can find my box of shorts. I have some short snap caps somewhere too...

I don't recall the spring feeling any slimmer but that's a good point. We'll see.
Probably take a few days until I have the time.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-21-2019, 06:12 PM
22/silencer's Avatar
22/silencer

Join Date: 
Mar 2012
Location: 
USA
Posts: 
132
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
about what year did you by yours, i got mine in 1993 and my bolt
look different but the magazine looks the same. i will try take a picture
of mine and post it here.

Greg
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-22-2019, 12:44 PM
iceweazel
US Navy Veteran

Join Date: 
Jan 2005
Location: 
Central OH
Posts: 
103
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Did I see you mention you had a mk1? This was for a mk2. I want to say I got i in 1994? The packing list was in the mailer with the parts. I'll double check tonight.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-22-2019, 05:51 PM
22/silencer's Avatar
22/silencer

Join Date: 
Mar 2012
Location: 
USA
Posts: 
132
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
i have a mk2.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN0871.JPG (132.8 KB, 30 views)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The GSG STG-44 THREAD - Dissasembly, cleaning/lubing and tips Marc780 Misc -- Other Rimfire Rifle Brands 34 08-19-2019 03:33 PM
Bolt Stop & Magazine Disconnect jstanfield103 22/45 Mark IV 10 05-21-2019 06:05 PM
Bolt Stop & Magazine Disconnect jstanfield103 Mk IV 0 05-12-2019 11:41 AM
Lapua Practical Rimfire Challenge Lokipaux Long Range Rimfire 14 03-26-2019 01:09 PM
AR 15 22lr last round bolt hold open solutions: Catch-22 and Better Mag Adapter zukiphile AR-15 22LR Uppers & Conversions 23 01-25-2019 06:51 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:41 AM.

Privacy Policy

DMCA Notice

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2000-2018 RimfireCentral.com
x