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Old 01-24-2017, 05:09 PM
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I originally posted the chart shown on page 1 of this post; it was lost when Comcast deleted personal pages. These are indeed the velocities from the rounds and rifles shown over my chronograph, with my rifles. While the Hornady 45 gr FTX is marketed for short barrel personal defense, it also makes a dandy hunting round out of rifles, although not as flat shooting as some of the zippier rounds. Several of my rifles are very accurate with it.

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Old 01-26-2017, 04:57 PM
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So am I to assume that the critical defense is really designed for hand guns?
It would make sense if the powders are such to obtain faster burning for short barrels.
If this is so, why test them in long guns?
The oldest pistol cartridge still manufactured was originally designed for the Colt SAA [you might recognize it as 45LC], but if you go to a CAS match I'm sure you'll find a lot of people shooting it out of lever rifles.

The fact that a round may be purposely tweaked to elicit particular aspects of performance out of a short barrel doesn't preclude it from functioning, and even functioning well out of a longer one...
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Old 03-25-2019, 03:57 PM
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Accuracy in a rifle ?

Yes I can see this is an older thread, but tried some for the first time today, 50 yards, 5 shot groups, Rem 547C. Got 1 group under 1/2", lots of 4-good-1-flyer groups that opened up to about double the 4 shot group size. My typical experience with WMR ammo. Anyway seems to have some potential. What kind of accuracy are others seeing ? Also seemed to recoil less than Rem 33 gr Accutips shot later. Thanks !
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:11 PM
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I just checked the latest delivery and in it is a box of 45 grain Hornady 22wmr.
As expected, it's a CCI product with a Hornady label.
CCI manufacturer's date code on the side of the typical CCI styrene plastic box.
Once you understand that it's a CCI product, you can understand why there are
so many opinions regarding it's accuracy and trajectory consistency.
As with any CCI made rimfire, there is no lot grading and no guarantee of accuracy.
Results on target will vary brick by brick, box by box, shot by shot.
All because CCI uses us as it's quality control service.
Make it, box it, ship it, sell it. If there's a complaint, send 'em a coupon for a free box of ammo.

I'm going to send this box of 50 across a chrony at 200 yards.
It can be compared to all the other 22wmr previously tested.
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:53 PM
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I just checked the latest delivery and in it is a box of 45 grain Hornady 22wmr.
As expected, it's a CCI product with a Hornady label.
CCI manufacturer's date code on the side of the typical CCI styrene plastic box.
Once you understand that it's a CCI product, you can understand why there are
so many opinions regarding it's accuracy and trajectory consistency.
As with any CCI made rimfire, there is no lot grading and no guarantee of accuracy.
Results on target will vary brick by brick, box by box, shot by shot.
All because CCI uses us as it's quality control service.
Make it, box it, ship it, sell it. If there's a complaint, send 'em a coupon for a free box of ammo.

I'm going to send this box of 50 across a chrony at 200 yards.
It can be compared to all the other 22wmr previously tested.
You're really raining on my parade. I was holding onto to the happy delusion that this stuff, which, BTW, has performed really well out of my old 24" Mossy, was a competitors cartridge made out right by Hornady.

Alias, I hope my luck with the boxes I own holds true, 'cuase it's been a great hunting round for groundhogs.
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:04 PM
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Check the side of the plastic box for the date code.
Then compare it to the system CCI uses.
That ain't Hornady cartridges in that box.
Only Hornady labels on it.
Sorry for the buzz kill.
But I figure accuracy is important in shooting and posted information.

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Old 03-31-2019, 12:02 PM
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Tried a box of 50 at 200 yards.
Disappointing results.
Not a surprise based on the visual inspection before shooting.
Irregular cartridge dimensions, canted seating, varied seating depths.
Fine for handgun use at short range, not an accurate target round.
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Old 03-31-2019, 07:27 PM
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It shoots fine for me, is 2nd best in my WMR, following Federal 50grains. I'd go with the results that you personally experience and take others' posts (including my) as just their own experience. I'd say go with what you experience with your gun.
Yup, no worries there.

I have enough of the Hornady/CCI Critical Defense 45g to last several years. But, I will make a closer inspection of my lots and sort out cartridges that appear out of spec. Hopefully, this will cull some "flyers" from getting into my magazine.
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:55 AM
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Hopefully, this will cull some "flyers"

It's a CCI product.
Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't.
Minimal quality control and zero lot grading on the CCI line. Make it, box it, ship it sell it.
For close range use as a pistol round it'll do the job.
As labeled, that is it's intended use.
As a rifle cartridge, 15 inches of spread at 200 yards ain't my idea of quality rimfire.
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:27 PM
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Hornady Critical Defense 45g

I came home from work to day and sitting on my porch was a box from Midway USA... In the box was to 2 50 round packs of Hornady 30 V-Max and 2 50 round packs of Hornady Critical Defense ammo... So I decided to break out my Browning T-Bolt Sporter 22 WMR and shoot a group... the gun was originally sighted in for Federal 50gr HP so it was shooting high just off my target. I put my aiming point a little to high on my target... so I flipped target upside down and tried it again... Now I can see my impacts on target... I shot 5 rounds 4 of the 5 were in a tight little 3/8” cluster and the 5th round was about a 1/4” from the 4 round cluster for a 5/8” group...





I will be resigning this gun in with this ammo and I will be testing it out this fall in the squirrel woods!!!

I’m tickled with the accuracy and I ordered a brick of it from Buds

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