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Old 08-05-2015, 02:55 PM
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Picked up a brick of Norma Match-22 at ...



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a Field & Stream in Columbus, Ohio a couple of weeks ago. Kinda disappointed in its performance in three of my best sporters. Here are the results from this morning's shooting session (50 yards):



It seemed to be running best in the Kimber K22, so I made a windage and elevation correction before the third group. I think that group was adversely effected as the adjustments settled in. We tightened back up in the fifth. I tried the Norma in my Anschütz 1710 last week, and the results were similar to the CZ groups of this morning (no pic).

Please note that the Aguila Subsonic shoots as well or better than the Norma Match 22, in my CZ American, at half the price.


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Old 08-05-2015, 03:23 PM
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I have not been that impressed with Norma's offerings either--at least as far as they perform in my rifles. I have several different lots of both TAC and Match, and they are all just OK. I'd rather shoot CCI SV or anything by SK/Wolf.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:28 PM
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I'd rather shoot CCI SV or anything by SK/Wolf.
Agree.
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Poor in my CZ's. Four or five points worse than Midas+, RWS-50 and Eley Match on the Green Meanie target in my Anschutz 1913a.
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About 3/4" in my 452 American and my 1712, about the same for the TAC-22. That's at 50 yds.
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Old 08-05-2015, 04:25 PM
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And I thought I was the only one ...... All those rave....


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I finally tried the Norma Match 22 in my 455 Pro Varmint.... It was tamtilizingly inconsistent. Over 8 groups at 50 yards the group size averaged 0.85", but there were four groups that had three or four holes touching and then two well off the group. It was like shooting Eley Sport.
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Old 08-05-2015, 10:02 PM
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An indication of it's quality, might be the fact it's a buck a box cheaper than Eley Club.
and I'm well acquainted with the velocity spread of Eley Club.

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Old 08-05-2015, 10:32 PM
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22 target rifles are notoriously picky about ammo...

...with no discernible rhyme or reason. Haven't yet tried the Norma Match 22, but the TAC-22 groups from my Win.52B and my Rem.513T are at least as good as Eley Club. Both are old-school target rifles with bull barrels as long as a boring August afternoon here in Las Vegas, I'll have to borrow my daughter's CZ 452 and see what results I get with a lighter, shorter, tighter barrel.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:53 PM
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LOL. Placing it on par with Eley Club makes me want to run away from it even more.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:16 AM
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22 target rifles are notoriously picky about ammo...
...with no discernible rhyme or reason.



That particular observation bothered me for a long time.
I tried everything I could, to find the cause of all those flyers.
Rim sizing, case diameters, runout angle, chamber length, weight sorting,
pillaring, bedding, barrel bedding, one piece test rests, fuglification
and including trying every type of 22lr ammo I could get my hands on.
I checked for visible defects and when that still didn't solve the problem,
I picked up a chronograph. Once I was able to correlate poi to mv,
it was very easy to see why all those strays were showing up.
No rifle can produce repeatable trajectories, when the ammunition being used
produces a different velocity for every round fired.
I don't care how much time and money you throw at it.
22lr will impact about 7/100ths of an inch different for every 10 fps variation,
at 50 yards. After I figured that out, I stopped worrying
and accepted the fact that rimfires aren't ammo picky, they just don't like cr*ppy ammo.

Our problem is, at this time, that's mostly what's being shipped.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:57 AM
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Poor in my CZ's. Four or five points worse than Midas+, RWS-50 and Eley Match on the Green Meanie target in my Anschutz 1913a.
Interesting.

I walked away from this stuff, but my wife urged me to purchase something simply in the spirit of our shopping outing. I went back and looked at their .22 LR selections once more. It was either this or overpriced Remington Golden Bullet (ugh!). The Norma got the nod in the interest of science.

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Old 08-06-2015, 10:24 AM
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Danny- We all acknowledge our 22's are picky.

I am very pleased with the results using my Anschutz. It is great for practice. As I said, it is 4 or 5 points less on the green target. 238 vs. 243 or so.

With my CZ 452 UL, we are talking more like 220 vs 238 ish with the better ammo.

At half the price, I can practice my trigger finger placement and pull a lot more comfortably with $7-$7.50/box than with $16-$17 box. When the spread in scores lessens to negligible, if ever, it will have served its purpose.

Is there an occasional flyer? Yes. But no more than a few per 100. I know it ain't me when a shot winds up in the 7 ring.
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Poor in my CZ's. Four or five points worse than Midas+, RWS-50 and Eley Match on the Green Meanie target in my Anschutz 1913a.
I guess I don't know how you could complain with those results considering that the Norma is less than half the price of those real "target" ammos you mentioned. I would consider that very good compared to other ammo in the same price range when compared to the 3 other target ammos you mentioned.
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:30 PM
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A friend has given me an almost full box of Norma Match cartridges. I want to try them in my Russian CM-2 that I use to shoot bench rest. I've been shooting Norma TAC-22 and my last two scores have been 243-9X & 244-7X on the IBS targets.

My friend shoots a CZ-452 Varmint rifle in a custom stock. He uses Wolf MT cartridges and his last scores have been 248 & 246.

I haven't had a chance to try the Match cartridges but my friend says his rifle doesn't like them at all. I won't buy any until I have a chance to try them first.
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