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Old 10-17-2021, 10:16 PM
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Very Old Front Sight Inserts?



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So my 54 Match from 1954, serial 2xxx, seems to have a smaller than 18mm front globe sight. Googled around to see what it is, but didn't find much. My 18mm inserts won't fit. If it's not 18mm, what is it? And where can I get a set of inserts? TIA
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Old 10-17-2021, 10:31 PM
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0.775” at the ears and 0.6” at the outside of the circle.
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Old 10-17-2021, 11:22 PM
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It could be a BRNO globe or maybe a Redfield front globe. I can't find my single BRNO insert and the Redfield is on my Win. 52 and its buried right now. The BRNO globe measures .597ish . Wish I could help you more than I did. lol


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Old 10-18-2021, 02:27 AM
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Walther fitted a 16mm tunnel for many years, and were also based in Ulm. It's not inconceivable it is a Walther tunnel, or Anschutz borrowed the dimensions early on. Contemporary Soviet rifles, then very successful, took 15mm-ish elements and BSAstook 9/16in.

I haven't seen 16mm elements for sake in years. It might be easier to buy an 18mm tunnel to use your existing elements.

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Old 10-18-2021, 08:13 AM
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Walther fitted a 16mm tunnel for many years, and were also based in Ulm. It's not inconceivable it is a Walther tunnel, or Anschutz borrowed the dimensions early on. Contemporary Soviet rifles, then very successful, took 15mm-ish elements and BSAstook 9/16in.

I haven't seen 16mm elements for sake in years. It might be easier to buy an 18mm tunnel to use your existing elements.

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Ugggh. It’s a dovetail mount so might not be that easy to change to 18mm.
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Old 10-18-2021, 10:19 AM
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Walther fitted a 16mm tunnel for many years, and were also based in Ulm. It's not inconceivable it is a Walther tunnel, or Anschutz borrowed the dimensions early on. Contemporary Soviet rifles, then very successful, took 15mm-ish elements and BSAstook 9/16in.

I haven't seen 16mm elements for sake in years. It might be easier to buy an 18mm tunnel to use your existing elements.

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Ugggh. It’s a dovetail mount so might not be that easy to change to 18mm.
Do you have a good photo? It might help somebody ID the sight. It sounds like it is a little larger than the small Redfield sights.


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https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forum...t=650353&amp=1

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Old 10-18-2021, 10:31 AM
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Ugggh. Itís a dovetail mount so might not be that easy to change to 18mm.
That's no problem. Anshutz still make a tunnel for the old-style dovetail. In fact they make two, one for perspex/glass events and irises only, and one for these + metal elements: https://www.intershoot.co.uk/acatalo...nel--1169.html

Centra also make their excellent Score tunnel with a 14-1813 base.
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Old 10-18-2021, 12:59 PM
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I would be surprised if Champion’s Choice doesn’t have what you need.
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Old 10-18-2021, 07:17 PM
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early front sight

I have an early Anschutz 54 05843 and it has the dovetail block with a front sight unlike the 1400 series. Although it takes 18mm inserts they are inserted from the front with no top slot. My friend has an early 54 with a set of the smaller diameter inserts like yours. When I got my late 50s Walther LG55T the front sight took the smaller 16 mm inserts and came with a post insert. I called CC and Homer sold me the "last inventory of the smaller inserts" in stock. These may or may not fit your front sight; there is little information available about these early (pre 1960) Match 54 rifles.
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My 1966 model 64 had a Redfield front globe which used 15mm inserts. Fortunately my rifle came with a few diff sized inserts but at the time I did locate an online source (below). I ended up swapping to a more standard 18mm globe so I never did order.
https://stores.leeshavergunsmithing....t-insert-card/
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Old 11-04-2021, 11:55 AM
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Little smaller than .62” and mine has offset ears.
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