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Old 09-05-2020, 03:55 PM
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Ammunition if you are an avid shooter is an investment in the future. Even if you die with ammo, your family will use it just like they will use your money! Ammunition prices have continued to climb with inflation. It was not 25 years ago that you could buy federal 550 bulk packs for $8.97. Now that same ammo is $20 to $30. So if you have a secure place to store the ammo, as long as you have enough money in the bank to take care of your other needs is just a hedge for inflation. Ammunition is a commodity that can go up and down but over the long run we know it trends upward just like metals. People who buy when ammo prices are right are just good investors in a particular commodity. Now if you burn up your ammo and can't afford to replace it you have a problem. Otherwise, you have "saved" money every time you shoot by buying the ammo at a better price at some time in the past. I ordered some reloading bullets recently because I found some at a reasonable price. Not because I was out, but because I am hedging my bets on the future price of components. I got 1000 jacketed 38 bullets for $130. Not great historically, but XTP bullets at Midway start at $17.50 per hundred now and loaded 38 ammo is $20+ a box. 357 magnums $25+. I used to be able to pick up loaded 38s around $10 a box.
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Old 09-05-2020, 05:29 PM
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Ammunition if you are an avid shooter is an investment in the future. Even if you die with ammo, your family will use it just like they will use your money! Ammunition prices have continued to climb with inflation. It was not 25 years ago that you could buy federal 550 bulk packs for $8.97. Now that same ammo is $20 to $30. So if you have a secure place to store the ammo, as long as you have enough money in the bank to take care of your other needs is just a hedge for inflation. Ammunition is a commodity that can go up and down but over the long run we know it trends upward just like metals. People who buy when ammo prices are right are just good investors in a particular commodity. Now if you burn up your ammo and can't afford to replace it you have a problem. Otherwise, you have "saved" money every time you shoot by buying the ammo at a better price at some time in the past. I ordered some reloading bullets recently because I found some at a reasonable price. Not because I was out, but because I am hedging my bets on the future price of components. I got 1000 jacketed 38 bullets for $130. Not great historically, but XTP bullets at Midway start at $17.50 per hundred now and loaded 38 ammo is $20+ a box. 357 magnums $25+. I used to be able to pick up loaded 38s around $10 a box.


All this is true enough. Back when I was doing a lot of prairie doggin', I was lucky enough to buy up a "bunch" of 50gr. VMax .224" bullets at less than $23/250. I just checked the price, now they're $48/250. I still have a "bunch" of them (along with a "bunch" of .204 32gr. bullets, too. Compared to today's prices, I "stole" them.
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For those who hoard, are you concerned with humidity control and ammo reliability down the road?

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...mmo-long-term/
I agree with the article at controlling humidity and temperature.

However, the Author Luke C. needs to study up on rimfire priming.

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For one, there is no bottom location for ingress but the primer material inside rimfire cases starts its life off as a paste which then gets pressed into the rim and dried.
Rimfire primer that starts off life as a paste gets spun in not pressed.
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Old 09-06-2020, 08:16 PM
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Been buying, collecting, stashing, HOARDING......whatever you want to call it since the late 70's! Couple boxes here, a couple boxes there, no apologies from me on being prepared OR causing this, OR ANY OTHER shortage! I'll still pick up a box or two when I stop in at Bass Pro or Walmart......same chance everyone one else has! You snooze, YOU lose!
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I went ahead and got some of that Federal Auto Match.

Last Wednesday I saw seven or eight 325 round packs of Federal Auto Match at Wal Mart,,,
It's decent enough ammo but I decided to pass on buying any of it,,,
It didn't fit any niche in my shooting needs.

Saturday morning I went to Wal Mart and there were four packs still on their shelves,,,
I called my friend who has three ammo burning sons to see if he wanted any.

He said finances were too tight this month so he passed as well.

I started to walk away but then thought, what the heck,,,
I went ahead and purchased all four packs.

It had suddenly dawned on me that this ammo worked very well in my bolt-action Mossberg,,,
I was able to shoot groups that were tight enough for my aging skills,,,
That leaves all of that good Remington for my semi-auto rifles.

I am finding I can rationalize anything given enough time.

But in all honesty I'll probably just sit on it,,,
Until my friend has some free coin.

But that puts the number at 49829 rounds,,,
Only 2,171 rounds to go until I hit my goal of 52,000 rounds.

It would have been closer but I did burn a few rounds this holiday weekend.

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The key is to pick up a little bit at a time when the prices are good. Before you know it, you will have way over 52,000 rounds.

Ask me how I know this.
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The key is to pick up a little bit at a time when the prices are good. Before you know it, you will have way over 52,000 rounds.

Ask me how I know this.
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The key is to pick up a little bit at a time when the prices are good.
That's what I've been doing ever since ammo came back,,,
And Wal Mart always seems to have decent prices.

I did try and make a pre-paid special order from Wal Mart,,,
I asked the manager of sporting goods to order me two cases of the 550 round Federal bulk packs.

He said they didn't special order ammunition,,,
I have no idea if that is true or he just didn't want to do it.

But for me it's just a couple thousand more rounds and I'm at my goal.

I'll just keep checking there a few times a week,,,
It'll eventually show up and when it does,,,
I'll swoop on it like a starving hawk.


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Prices on guns & ammo are high now but IF & WHEN things calm down some of the panic buyers may dump stuff cheap. That's what I'm hoping for anyway.
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Did you know...

Doing a social studies lesson homeschooling my girls, we watched the youtube video of 22plinkster touring the CCI factory. They showed 6 diameter lead billets that are 300# each that they draw into wires then swage the bullets from. So I turned that into a math problem...how many 40 gr bullets from one 300# billet?
300 x 7000 / 40 =
52,500
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Doing a social studies lesson homeschooling my girls, we watched the youtube video of 22plinkster touring the CCI factory. They showed 6 diameter lead billets that are 300# each that they draw into wires then swage the bullets from. So I turned that into a math problem...how many 40 gr bullets from one 300# billet?
300 x 7000 / 40 =
52,500
So, I can say my stash of 22lr has 6 billets. That's much better.
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So, I can say my stash of 22lr has 6 billets. That's much better.
You billet-hoarding, concrete slab-breaker!
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This info could be useful! Scenario:

Shooter: Honey, I need to get some ammo.
Honey: Don't you have enough already? We need groceries.
Shooter: I'm only sitting at six billlets.
Honey: Wow, only six bullets. That's hardly worth going to the range. OK, we can have ramen noodles again tonight.
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I keep a couple years worth for normal shooting. 2020 has been an exceptionally light year so I'm not counting that. The panics never seem to last 2 years, so that is enough to get me back to the good times.
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