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Old 09-21-2020, 07:32 PM
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yes that was a rimfire sporter target in the pic. i shot a 592/600 just after shooting the 50 shot group. different rifle though
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:32 PM
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Nice !!
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:00 PM
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I posted this info some time ago. I called Ruag (who imports RWS) and this is what I was told about which ammo is which ......

** I was told that Geco 22lr Rifle is the same as RWS Target Rifle in the orange and black box.

** Geco Match 22lr is the same as Norma Match 22 which is the same as RWS Rifle Match (yellow and black box). I was told that in some cases they share the same lot numbers.

** Geco 22lr semi-auto is the same as Norma Tac-22.

Geco still lists Rifle and Semi-Auto on their web site, but no longer lists Match. However, you can find Match on the internet (Target Sports has it listed for $2.99 box).

For a price comparison, Geco Rifle is $19.99/brick vs. RWS Target Rifle which is $68.90/brick. (same thing)

For a price comparison, Geco Semi-Auto is $19.99/brick and Norma Tac22 is $39.99/brick. (same thing)

For a price comparison, Geco match is $29.90/brick, Norma Match is $62.70/brick and RWS Match is $94.00/brick. (same thing)

Here is my advice --- hurry and buy the less expensive Geco ammo while it is available. You won't regret it. Burt
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:05 PM
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If I have a good hold, I can pretty much keep Match in the center of a small orange stick on, at 50yds. I am using an old Winchester which does well making me think it is extremely good ammo but other firearms do just OK, as people say. But things are lean so maybe conserve although I am sure we all have plenty.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:26 PM
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Now you know how I felt when I started testing with 50 shot runs. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" />
Up until that time I was doing pretty good with sub-moa at 50 yards for 5 shots.
It wasn't until I started recording chrony numbers and documenting targets and group aggregates
that I started wondering where all those odd flyers were coming from.

Feel like attempting 50 at 100 and 200 yards?
You can double check my half-third rule.

Any pics of results/rifle/range and setup?
I like rifle pron. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

Thanks for giving it a try, not many have. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/tup.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumb" class="inlineimg" />
I recently stepped away from 10 shot groups and bumped it to 20...eye opening to say the least.

I don't know that I could stomach 50rd groups.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:51 PM
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I posted this info some time ago. I called Ruag (who imports RWS) and this is what I was told about which ammo is which ......

** I was told that Geco 22lr Rifle is the same as RWS Target Rifle in the orange and black box.

** Geco Match 22lr is the same as Norma Match 22 which is the same as RWS Rifle Match (yellow and black box). I was told that in some cases they share the same lot numbers.

** Geco 22lr semi-auto is the same as Norma Tac-22.

Geco still lists Rifle and Semi-Auto on their web site, but no longer lists Match. However, you can find Match on the internet (Target Sports has it listed for $2.99 box).

For a price comparison, Geco Rifle is $19.99/brick vs. RWS Target Rifle which is $68.90/brick. (same thing)

For a price comparison, Geco Semi-Auto is $19.99/brick and Norma Tac22 is $39.99/brick. (same thing)

For a price comparison, Geco match is $29.90/brick, Norma Match is $62.70/brick and RWS Match is $94.00/brick. (same thing)

Here is my advice --- hurry and buy the less expensive Geco ammo while it is available. You won't regret it. Burt
I bought 2 cases if RWS Target from SGAMMO for 223.00 a case, delivered last year...stuff shoots lights out in my 452 Americans.

If Geco shoots like my RWS Target and it should since it is the same stuff...19.99 is stealing it! Yeah, pick it up and don't look back.
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Old 09-22-2020, 06:40 AM
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I posted this info some time ago. I called Ruag (who imports RWS) and this is what I was told about which ammo is which ......

** I was told that Geco 22lr Rifle is the same as RWS Target Rifle in the orange and black box.

** Geco Match 22lr is the same as Norma Match 22 which is the same as RWS Rifle Match (yellow and black box). I was told that in some cases they share the same lot numbers.

** Geco 22lr semi-auto is the same as Norma Tac-22.

Geco still lists Rifle and Semi-Auto on their web site, but no longer lists Match. However, you can find Match on the internet (Target Sports has it listed for $2.99 box).

For a price comparison, Geco Rifle is $19.99/brick vs. RWS Target Rifle which is $68.90/brick. (same thing)

For a price comparison, Geco Semi-Auto is $19.99/brick and Norma Tac22 is $39.99/brick. (same thing)

For a price comparison, Geco match is $29.90/brick, Norma Match is $62.70/brick and RWS Match is $94.00/brick. (same thing)

Here is my advice --- hurry and buy the less expensive Geco ammo while it is available. You won't regret it. Burt
Prarie Maggot: WHERE are you finding GECO bolt rifle IN STOCK for 19.99??
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Old 09-22-2020, 06:49 AM
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He said he posted it "some time ago".......... just didn't say how long ago. Certainly not recently.
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Old 09-22-2020, 06:50 AM
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yes that was a rimfire sporter target in the pic. i shot a 592/600 just after shooting the 50 shot group. different rifle though
Whoa!! 592/600 in a legit CMP Sporter match with a legit 3lb trigger?? Or were you just playing around? If that was an actual match you have some skills! I have shot mid to upper 580's in local matches, but to break 590 under actual match conditions is pretty impressive. That's at another level

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Old 09-22-2020, 06:54 AM
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He said he posted it "some time ago".......... just didn't say how long ago. Certainly not recently.
Ahhh- I missed that part... $19.99 got my attention for sure. I LOVE that ammo, I think it's the best in that price range. Last price I got it for was $20.50 ( a few months back, I think?) at Target Sports.
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Old 09-22-2020, 07:28 AM
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I would like to try that test with a box of STD+ @ 50 yrds. That would be a good try out of my new Chrono. So, I just set up a target at 50 yrds, shoot a whole box at it and record the results?

The rifle will be a CZ 455FS w/ Athlon Talos 6-24x50. Caldwell Rock BR front and a Protektor rear bag.

Bill
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Old 09-22-2020, 08:01 AM
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Do so Bill, I'll be watching for the results.
Every time someone attempts this and posts the results,
I add the data/pics to my collection.
Handy for comparison with different rifles/setups/ammo and conditions.

All 50 shots at a single aimpoint.
Try it at 50, 100, 200 yards if ya' like a challenge.

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Old 09-22-2020, 09:41 AM
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results at 200 yards were 15 inches of vertical and 3.75 horizontal. results at 100 yards were 6.75 inches of vertical and 2.5 horizontal. at 100 i had a couple shots near the bottom of the paper, i was not expecting this at all. i count 49 shots for sure on paper, if someone says i missed paper and 8 inches of vertical i wont argue with that. wind was mild around 2 mph.
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:49 AM
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Tailwind...kicks my butt too...creates vertical turbulence.
Exacerbates vertical spread due to my inability to predict where or when it occurs.

W, do you mind if I add y'er results to the 50 at 200 thread?
Add a pic of the rifle if you would and a view downrange.
Rifle pron is a good thing.
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Old 09-22-2020, 10:18 AM
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jaia i will get you a couple pics probably 2 days
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