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Old 11-06-2003, 12:10 PM
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Just found this today. This may explain why Hornady has not been interested in a heavier .17 caliber load!

SOUTHPORT, CONNECTICUT 06890 U.S.A.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


TO: OUTDOOR WRITERS, EDITORS, AND PUBLISHERS

FROM: STURM, RUGER & COMPANY, INC.

DATE: November 6, 2003

SUBJECT: New 204 RUGER Cartridge


Sturm, Ruger Announces Five Rifles in New 204 RUGER Cartridge


Sturm, Ruger is proud to introduce five rifle models for 2004 in an exciting new caliber: the 204 RUGER. This small, fast, and efficient new cartridge is the result of another joint development effort between Sturm, Ruger and Hornady Manufacturing Company. The 204 RUGER shares the same case head and overall length dimensions as the 222 Remington Magnum, but uses a slender new 20 caliber, 32 grain, V-MAXŇ bullet. The 204 RUGER’s bullet has an extremely efficient ballistic coefficient of 0.192 and an amazing muzzle velocity of 4,225 feet per second.
When compared directly with either the 22-250 Remington or the 220 Swift, the 204 RUGER offers higher muzzle velocity and flatter trajectory. Because the 204 RUGER cartridge achieves a higher velocity with less propellant than either the 22-250 Remington or the 220 Swift, this new cartridge does not compromise barrel life. The 204 RUGER also offers lower recoil and muzzle report than comparable high-velocity, sub-caliber ammunition. Its conventional case shape avoids feeding problems and increased rearward bolt thrust associated with short and super short magnum cartridges.
Because this new caliber provides significant benefits for varmint hunters and target shooters alike, Sturm, Ruger is introducing five rifle models chambered for the 204 RUGER. These include three bolt action rifles and two single shot rifles. The Ruger M77 MKII bolt action rifles include: the M77R in blued steel with a cut-checkered American walnut stock; the KM77RLFP Ultralight All-Weather in stainless steel with a synthetic stock and a light contour barrel; and the Target Grey KM77VT Target rifle in stainless steel with a brown, laminated wood stock, heavy target barrel, and two-stage target trigger. Ruger No.1 single shot models include the No. 1 Standard in blued steel with a cut-checkered American walnut stock and the No. 1 Stainless Varminter in stainless steel with a black, laminated stock.
These new 204 RUGER models will be available beginning in March 2004.


Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.
“Arms Makers for Responsible Citizens”®


Enclosed material is for immediate release. For additional information please contact: Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.; 200 Ruger Rd.; Prescott, AZ 86301 (928) 541-8901 or email – [email protected]
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Old 11-06-2003, 02:15 PM
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Old 11-06-2003, 02:39 PM
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Sounds like an very nice prarie dog round!
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Old 11-06-2003, 05:54 PM
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ballistic coefficient of 0.192 and an amazing muzzle velocity of 4,225 feet per second.


That does it, I definately need to find a job.
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Old 11-06-2003, 05:57 PM
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I do not understand why one would want to bother with such a caliber, when you could move up to a lightly-loaded .223 and enjoy surplus/commercial reload ammo at much lower prices..... -and anyone out for max accuracy would want a BR or short magnum caliber anyway.
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-Meanwhile, the .17HRM is actually quite a bit different ballistics than the other-existing rimfire choices, and more accurate besides.
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Old 11-06-2003, 06:09 PM
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Red face It comes under this heading........

Rich people need something to spend their money on.

Ho Hum,
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Old 11-06-2003, 08:13 PM
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Sounds just like a tactical .20

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Old 11-06-2003, 10:33 PM
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Smile As usual

I want one, but then I want one of every gun made and two of most.

ha ha ha

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Old 11-06-2003, 10:38 PM
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I think it is too much of a different animal from the 17 hmr to have anything to do with consideration of bullet weights for the 17 hmr or anything else concerning the 17 hmr. I assume that is what you mean by " heavier 17".
Sounds like a very impressive round however I don't think it will make it. Part of the beauty of the 17 hmr is that it is not reloadable. This 20, while there are some bullets for it , they are not very main stream and anyone into these type rounds is very considerate of what bullets are available. I don't think enough people will buy into it at least to make it a long term success.
Plus it is too close to the 17 rem.
Also even though it burns less powder than say a 22 250 or 220 swift it will still probally erode throats just as fast as it shoots through a smaller hole than the other two and the powder to bore ratio and pressures are probally pretty comparable.
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Old 11-07-2003, 04:50 AM
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A ballistic coefficient of 0.192 is terrible. How can they call that good ? Also, what does the article on the 204 Ruger have to do with a heavier bullet for the 17 HMR ?
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Old 11-07-2003, 06:21 AM
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if you can shoot a 30 odd grain bullet 4200 fps' you don't need a good bc

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Old 11-07-2003, 07:13 AM
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What is the BC of the 17 hmr?
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Old 11-07-2003, 07:56 AM
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Looks like Ruger has done it again! Created a cartridge that offers nothing. Now the .480 Ruger has a little brother sporting the same name. Bah- humbug.
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Old 11-07-2003, 08:31 AM
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I agree. But what else can they do? In order to sell more of what they make, they must invent something "new". With more than 200 million guns out there, who needs more?
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Old 11-07-2003, 09:04 AM
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:....With more than 200 million guns out there, who needs more?
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