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Old 07-24-2021, 11:09 AM
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I would not trust those pop guns against a raccoon let alone a bears wild instinct for survival . Under 25 yards nothing in my experience exceeds a 12 gauge slug
Ha! Light one off and you will not be calling a .454 Casull a "pop gun." The .454 is no slouch.

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I would not trust those pop guns against a raccoon let alone a bears wild instinct for survival . Under 25 yards nothing in my experience exceeds a 12 gauge slug
Ha! <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> Light one off and you will not be calling a .454 Casull a "pop gun." The .454 is no slouch.
Agreed, the .454 is no slouch.

"The .454 Casull offers power far beyond the .44 Magnum’s standard load: a 240 grain, .429 caliber bullet fired at around 1270 fps which generates 860 ft-lbs. at the muzzle. The typical Casull load is a 260 grain, .452 caliber projectile launched at 1800 fps. This produces 1870 ft-lbs., more than twice the .44’s energy–close to the .30-30 Winchester. The Casull’s extra case capacity lends itself to even heavier bullets and loads. 300 – 360 gains are common. If the Casull’s power is off the chart, so is its recoil. No shooter who touches one-off ever forgets the experience.

The Casull is fit for any game animal in North America, and it is considered superior to the .44 Magnum for bear defense."
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Old 07-24-2021, 01:25 PM
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The original post didn't mention a .454 , I have shot a .454 while it's a riot to shoot and made me giggle inside seeing the fireball from that thing , I was the only one in the group who felt that way &#x1f609;
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Joking aside the .454 is by quite a margin better suited , not discounting it at all.
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For bear country I would agree on the 10mm, either a 1911 or Glock.
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For Brown Bear I suggest 200 grains or more, traveling 1000 feet per second or faster.

Your 1911 doesn't make the cut, but slap a .460 Rowland conversion on it, and you've got powerful medicine.

.45 Colt handloaded, or from a premium manufacturer, will be great, but as mentioned, it's a single action revolver.

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I carry a Dan Wesson, but your Ruger should hold these. 215 gr LSWC's traveling about 1050 fps from a four inch barrel.
These pack a whollop, and will put a hurting on whatever hit with them.

Add a 20 ga pump in the back of the truck with 00 buck for in camp.
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:30 PM
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A cooler full of beer cans makes an excellent bear diversion.
It will keep a bear occupied for quite awhile until they pass out drunk.
Do not put soda cans in the cooler. That'll make Mr Bear unhappy and you don't want an unhappy bear in camp.

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Old 07-25-2021, 12:30 PM
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If I thought there was really a chance I'd be attacked by a bear I think I'd just stay home. Or I'd take a short-barreled 12 ga pump shotgun with an extended magazine tube stuffed full with slug loads. Let's face it--you are really unlikely to kill a bear in extremis with any handgun.

In reality, you're more likely to need protection against the 2-legged predator variety, especially if you stumble across his marijuana patch. In that case, I'd pack a high-capacity 9mm semi-auto.
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If I was going camping in bear country I agree that it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to take a slug gun with you. But you still need some type of hand cannon that you can have on you at all times.

Call me crazy but having to walk around with a shotgun 24/7 on a camping trip doesn't sound like a very fun trip.

Chances are you'll never be attacked by a bear, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have protection against it when you wander into areas where they live.
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1911 filled with heavy solids on your hip/pants is better than a slug gun leaning against a tree when one is bent over trying to do a big job when an ornery bruin decides to investigate the fresh scared people aroma you are making IMO.
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1911 filled with heavy solids on your hip/pants is better than a slug gun leaning against a tree when one is bent over trying to do a big job when an ornery bruin decides to investigate the fresh scared people aroma you are making IMO.
What if my pants are around my ankles, and im leaning against the tree , and the aroma is less than appealing?

Omg, am I gonna get chastised for that

Al , its quite apparent that you cant dissuade a bear with anything less than a full auto 50 BMG. So the handgun is obviously to be used to wound your companion enough to turn them into better bear bait than one’s self .
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Al , its quite apparent that you cant dissuade a bear with anything less than a full auto 50 BMG. So the handgun is obviously to be used to wound your companion enough to turn them into better bear bait than one’s self .
Age old wisdom is only hunt with a companion that runs slower than you.
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The green and orange states should not give me too much trouble while traveling as long as I stay on the blue path. I do have a 12ga pump or a 30/30 lever rifle I could take, but to save space I'd rather not. I agree that most likely the only trouble would be from people, not large animals so much.
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I would take a 2.75" model 69 smith for walking around, a .22 pistol just because, and a 12 gauge or an ar just in case. I travel with a pickup camper, so I can always carry several different guns.
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The green and orange states should not give me too much trouble while traveling as long as I stay on the blue path. I do have a 12ga pump or a 30/30 lever rifle I could take, but to save space I'd rather not. I agree that most likely the only trouble would be from people, not large animals so much.
Drive nice, all lights in working order, CC for your state and some others honoring it, and being a geezer you're a person of least suspicion IME.
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