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Old 11-19-2016, 08:18 PM
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Yeah man!-back order from Sportsman Guide came in today. Hopefully .22mag ammo is starting to come back.
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Old 11-19-2016, 11:02 PM
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Good, maybe now I'll be able to find some of this. Been able to find some of the V-max the last month or so but the CD is what I use for yotes.
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Hornady Critical Defense up at Cabela's, $14.99/50. Limit 2.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...12&WT.tsrc=AFF
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I have been shooting the Critical Defense in a couple of my WMR's & have been happy with accuracy & performance.

Have also noticed it is not overly destructive on small game even with body shots.... have yet to shoot 'yotes or larger stuff with them but have taken them squirrel hunting several times with good results.
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I have been shooting the Critical Defense in a couple of my WMR's & have been happy with accuracy & performance.

Have also noticed it is not overly destructive on small game even with body shots.... have yet to shoot 'yotes or larger stuff with them but have taken them squirrel hunting several times with good results.
It's loaded down to 22LR velocities, so expect it to have similar terminal ballistics.
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Old 01-12-2017, 08:32 PM
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According to Hornady, the 45g CD is advertised as producing 1700 fps from a 24" barrel. Even allowing for manufacturer's optimism and a 18-20" rifle barrel that will significantly best .22 lr performance. Plus found this chart:

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Old 01-12-2017, 11:57 PM
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Love the stuff in my PMR-30.

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It's loaded down to 22LR velocities, so expect it to have similar terminal ballistics.

But, but it's on the internet, so it must be true.....not.
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:29 PM
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It's loaded down to 22LR velocities, so expect it to have similar terminal ballistics.
Not hardly. It was original primary use was in small self defense handguns so a lot of the velocity numbers use a 2" barrel vs. most 22lr numbers using a 16+" barrel.
My personal experience is that the velocity is actually a little higher than what Hornady has listed.
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A comprehensive comparison in 3 1/2", 5 1/2", and 18 1/4" barrels here: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=421819
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Smile crit def

So am I to assume that the critical defense is really designed for hand guns?
It would make sense if the powders are such to obtain faster burning for short barrels.
If this is so, why test them in long guns?
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So am I to assume that the critical defense is really designed for hand guns?
It would make sense if the powders are such to obtain faster burning for short barrels.
If this is so, why test them in long guns?
i suspect the main difference us not in the powder burn rate but rather bullet design; with the .22mag not being a powerhouse, i think they optimized bullet design to take advantage of the available power by using a projectile that will hold together and penetrate , but which will still expand at slower pistol speeds.

in my case, i tried 'em as hunting rounds because i have 20 boxes of them & wanted to see if they were less destructive on small game...when squirrel hunting, they penetrate more & are less destructive than some of the various HP and lightweight tipped WMR loads..... since we get quite a few hogs in some of the areas i squirrel hunt, i wanted deeper punch when taking body shots.
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So am I to assume that the critical defense is really designed for hand guns?
It would make sense if the powders are such to obtain faster burning for short barrels.
If this is so, why test them in long guns?
That would be correct.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=.22+wmr...barrel&pc=MOZI

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Old 01-15-2017, 09:27 AM
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Smile

That make sense.
I wonder if there are any noticeable advantages over 50 grain HP out of a rifle?
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Old 01-15-2017, 10:08 PM
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A comprehensive comparison in 3 1/2", 5 1/2", and 18 1/4" barrels here: https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=421819
Your figures are real close to what I got, IIRC I got 1770 avg for 5 shots.
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