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Old 09-08-2018, 09:44 AM
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Went to the range yesterday to test a new batch of Federal 50gr jacketed hollow points. First I shot two 3 shot groups with CCI 40 gr. ammo at 100 yards to establish a base line. Next I fired a 3 shot group of the Federal 50gr ammo. I couldn’t believe my results the group was 6 inches low. I fired a few more groups with the same results. I fried a total of 18 rounds and had two rounds which were complete duds. I have used Federal 50gr in the past with excellent results. I know a heavier bullet at a slightly slower speed will shoot to a different POI but 6 inches is too much.

I contacted Federal/CCI and they will have UPS pick up the ammo and refund my purchase price. I just wanted to know if anyone has experienced this issue.

The lot number is J25Y509

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Old 09-08-2018, 11:11 AM
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I've had great results with the 50 gr. loads. Accuracy out to 75 yards was about an inch with my Savage 93FV. (5 rounds) The 6" low does not surprise me. That's normal. I know I have to adjust my scope when using it, especially after shooting the 30 gr. stuff. I consider it a "howitzer" round . . . just allow for the trajectory and lob them in there.
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:58 PM
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The heavier bullet impacts lower and would require a sight change. What you should be looking for is how the bullets group. From my rifle nothing comes close to the groups I get with the Federal 50 grain bullets. Surprised they would pay for shipping on a product that is not defective
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Old 09-08-2018, 08:17 PM
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My rifle has told me that it wants nothing but the Federal 50`s, so thats what I feed it. About two weeks ago I shot my .223 at 200 yards, which was sighted in using 60? grain Nosler ballistic tips. When I switched to Sierra 52 grain hpbt, it shot a foot high and about five inches to the left. Talk about a dramatic change of POI.
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:46 AM
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My rifle has told me that it wants nothing but the Federal 50`s, so thats what I feed it. About two weeks ago I shot my .223 at 200 yards, which was sighted in using 60? grain Nosler ballistic tips. When I switched to Sierra 52 grain hpbt, it shot a foot high and about five inches to the left. Talk about a dramatic change of POI.
That does sound like a lot however , don't forget that with centerfire rifles harmonics and barrel whip also has a greater effect.

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Old 09-09-2018, 10:32 AM
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Out of my 16" Contender , the Hornadys are about 1/2" high at 50, and spot on at 100. The 50 gr. Federals are 1" high at 50, and 3" low at 100.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:06 PM
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Thanks to everyone for your comments. I posted this information because this particular lot of ammunition performed drastically different than previous lots of Federal 50gr ammo in the same rifle. That coupled with the fact that I had two duds in 18 rounds prompted me to contact Federal/CCi customer service, The CS representative was very helpful and told me to return the ammo for testing and Federal would refund my purchase price.

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Old 09-09-2018, 01:02 PM
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2 dude in 18, if you had finished the box it could have been 2 in 50. It is a rimfire and even the best ammo is not 100% unfortunately. Our guns could be a little dirty and that could also contribute to misfires.

What are your normal results with 50 grainers that you have had in the past? 100% reliability? Less drop?

That seems about normal for what Iím used to.
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Old 09-09-2018, 02:32 PM
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My normal groups are 1" + or - .25" from the Ruger 77 and a little better from my Magnum Research. The Federal typically shoots one inch lower than the CCI Maxi-mags not 6" lower. I cannot remember ever having more than one dud in a box of ammo.
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:21 PM
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The 50gr shot about 2-3 inches low at 50 for me when sighted in with 33gr vmax... not surprising... the fed 50gr shoot good out of my T-Bolt... not sure how they do out of my othe WMR’s... but since I found a stash of Remington 33gr I’m back in business

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Old 09-09-2018, 07:28 PM
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Two duds in eighteen rounds is unacceptable. Thatís an 11% failure rate. Even if it were two in fifty, that is still a 4% fail. That is totally unacceptable.
IĎve been using .22 magnum since the Ď60s and have never had a single dud round of .22 mag. (Iíd better not have a dud given the price of the magnum ammo these days.)
Every dud round Iíve had has been .22LR, mostly Remington with a few Federal here and there. The duds always come from bulk packs rather than the boxes of 50.

I just picked up some of this 50 gr Federal ammo and havenít shot targets with it yet but I did try to recover some of the 50 gr bullets by shooting water jugs to gauge their terminal performance. So far, I have only been able to recover one perfect mushroom which weighed 48 gr. The rest of the bullets fragmented. They penetrated well (through three gallon jugs) but fragmented.
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Old 12-29-2018, 06:45 AM
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2 dude in 18, if you had finished the box it could have been 2 in 50. It is a rimfire and even the best ammo is not 100% unfortunately. Our guns could be a little dirty and that could also contribute to misfires.

What are your normal results with 50 grainers that you have had in the past? 100% reliability? Less drop?

That seems about normal for what I’m used to.
There 500fps slower and 10gr heavier... I’m no’s surprised they drop that far... I Squirrel hunt with em... I just made sight adj and I’m in business

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The Federal 50 gr. Magnum was THE round for IHMSA Field Target competition, mostly because it had much better knockdown on the half-scale rams at 100 yards, and the accuracy was as good as any other Magnum round. In all the years it was used, it never had any duds. Of course, that was in the early 2000's.
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It shoots much lower for me as well. 3" lower than most others at 50. My 77/22 magnum likes it so well that I decided to make it the preferred load for that rifle. With my circle X reticle, the crosshairs are dead on at 50 and the intersection of the circle and the verticle wire is dead on at 100.
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Old 02-16-2019, 07:20 AM
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I tried some Federal 50gr bullets yesterday. Started at 100 yards, but soon moved back to 10 yards - then saw why. They were striking the target sideways - key-hole effect.
The Henry would not stabilize them.
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